Hey, Avengers is gonna be pretty cool.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I just got back from seeing a sneak preview of Captain America: The First Avenger with my dad on base. First things first, it's a good movie. Not as good as Thor but much better than Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk.

I ain't gonna give real spoilers cause most of you have got a week left to wait for it but I just have a few things I'd like to say:

- There aren't really any Nazis in this movies. No swastikas at all.
- When you see it, wait till the credits end. What I'm about to say is kind of a major spoiler but nothing you probably wouldn't expect: They showed a trailer for The Avengers after the credits. Everyone was in it. No bullshit, it was a real, bonafide trailer. And it was awesome.

So feel free to talk about Captain America, The Avengers, or any of Marvel's other films.

[Azisien]

I liked Iron Man 2 more than Thor. So what should I expect out of Captain America? Worth it on the cheap night? We have a cheap night at theaters, here.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Originally Posted by Azisien

I liked Iron Man 2 more than Thor. So what should I expect out of Captain America? Worth it on the cheap night? We have a cheap night at theaters, here.

I'd say go full price if you have to because you won't regret it but it's if you don't want to pay full price then don't. This movie does have one thing in common with Iron Man 2: it moves like a motherfucker. It's not very long, I can't imagine it being over 2 hours long, and it has a really strong three act structure.

[BloodyMage]

My only concern is that the films and the heroes maybe work as individual films with some nods to being in the same universe, but this has really been building since Iron Man 1 I think. That was 2008. The hype for this crossover has literally been building for 4 years. I'm a little worried that it might be a decent movie with some interesting cast and characters and a fairly competent plot, but still rather viewed poorly because the epic hype crushed it.

If this works out too, how does Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 work? Are they going to break off from the Avengers to randomly deal with a threat themselves? Won't they have to keep contriving reasons for them to go off by themselves and then re-assemble? I mean, that sort of works with Thor since no one else can really deal with godly realm stuff, but really if someone is threatening the future of earth, why would Captain America be like 'nah, it's cool, Iron Man can deal with it.' If they lessen the extremity of the threat, won't the villain seem unambitious?

I dunno. I think Captain America and The Avengers will be good films, but trying to bring a comic book continuity to a mainstream audience seems like it'll be difficult to sustain over a long franchise.

[phil_]

Originally Posted by BloodyMage

If this works out too, how does Iron Man 3 . . . work? . . . why would Captain America be like 'nah, it's cool, Iron Man can deal with it.'

Make it purely business based. Iron Man fights to keep his company from, I dunno, merging with Disney and making Mickey Missiles because he hates mice. In the end, after a long battle of lawyers and counter-suits and slander and lobbying, he finally fights Robo-Disney the Ice Master soaring over the Matterhorn, a fight which breaks out far too quickly to assemble the Avengers.

Done. Mail me my check.

[Azisien]

There is only one way to combat over-hype. You, personally, must sit there and brood about how shitty the object of over-hype will be. Next year, after you've lowered your expectations to something like the quality of watching grass grow, you are ready to see the object of over-hype. It will probably be fantastic.

[Donomni]

Now, I'm probably the last person to go for comics knowledge on the internets, but weren't the original Avengers a 5-man team?

So, we're kinda missing someone in their own movie, then.

...unless the missing person in question is Spider-Man, then you can disregard this since Sony has their hooks in Spidey's movie rights.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Originally Posted by Donomni

Now, I'm probably the last person to go for comics knowledge on the internets, but weren't the original Avengers a 5-man team?

So, we're kinda missing someone in their own movie, then.

...unless the missing person in question is Spider-Man, then you can disregard this since Sony has their hooks in Spidey's movie rights.

Well, technically they're also missing Ant Man and Wasp, but they're bringing in Black Widow and Hawkeye to kind of replace them. Apparantly after the first Avengers movie they want to maybe do proper films for all the other characters they've missed, as well as sequels for the others, and I think they want to do a full blown Nick Fury and Black Panther movie too.

Yeah, Avengers 2 is gona get really packed. I suppose we should be thankful they don't have the rights to Spiderman and the X Men back yet as well, otherwise everything would be thrown together into a single universe and then things would be really crazy, much like the actual comics.

[Donomni]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Yeah, Avengers 2 is gona get really packed. I suppose we should be thankful they don't have the rights to Spiderman and the X Men back yet as well, otherwise everything would be thrown together into a single universe and then things would be really crazy, much like the actual comics.

Now that I think about it, we can totally not have that many Marvel movies.

Seriously, the continuity... ow. That is hurting my brain, right there.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Originally Posted by Donomni

Now that I think about it, we can totally not have that many Marvel movies.

Seriously, the continuity... ow. That is hurting my brain, right there.

While this may seem problematic, it also means we might get to see Dr. Strange and Iron Fist in their own movies.

Marvel is building their brand up like crazy. If The Avengers pays off then this will give them free reign to make whatever movies they want. DC can't do that because they've screwed up their last few non-Batman movies.