Post your sketches here!

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend

How so? I've spent 3 years planing 5 years worth of comic/story events out. I've chosen to draw out my work till an artist who can be trusted is found. I've given my project more attention then I've given my friends and family (who them selves are busy 80% of the time anyway). So how is it frustrating?

Colorful anecdote time: it's like a compulsive masturbator jerking off until everything is raw and bleeding. Not exactly pleasing to watch. There's little variety, little effort to establish core fundamentals, very little drive or push for improvement. The obsession (for lack of a better term) towards the story but little effort put in terms trying to sell it visually is the offputting part that Loyal is referring to.

Want to pick up an artist's interest in the work? Put forth the effort of the visual attempts as one puts into defending and fretting about all the trivial details that (to be quite frank) just isn't interesting right now with the cavalier attitude towards the current artwork.

[Mike McC]

Kyanbu, you seem to fall to pieces frequently when someone gives you criticism, or you find out you have used a trope, to name a few examples.

And honestly, drop the name. Naming an 'art' style something like 'black and velvet' is absolutely ludicrous, and is a goos way to get any potential artist worth their salt to look at you like a joke, like some little kid who thinks he knows everything and truly knows nothing. Seriously, it sounds like something one of any of hundreds of kiddies who post in the art forums at Gaia would come up with.

Also, I really do fail to see what's new with it. I see no significant difference from your previous artwork. The anatomy still looks like it was never learned, just copied until the most basic shape (with vague notion of function/internal structure) is able to be produced. The face still looks like features drawn onto a balloon, no sense of depth (and again, no notion of an internal structure).

If you want to get better, learn anatomy, and take life-drawing. And don't believe that since you're drawing anime-inspired or comic inspired or etc. that life drawing is a waste of time. It will give you the fundamentals that you need to be able to draw. Even exaggerated figures need to have an understanding of the form, of anatomy, in order to be able to be constructed well.

Also, on "an artist who can be trusted", you do realize that, for a project that's intended to be commercial like you seem to intend yours to be, you will likely have to pay them, correct? And not after it's finished. You will need to pay them a good chunk up front as well, because they will have living expenses to take care of when giving time to your project.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Mike McC

Kyanbu, you seem to fall to pieces frequently when someone gives you criticism, or you find out you have used a trope, to name a few examples.

And honestly, drop the name. Naming an 'art' style something like 'black and velvet' is absolutely ludicrous, and is a goos way to get any potential artist worth their salt to look at you like a joke, like some little kid who thinks he knows everything and truly knows nothing. Seriously, it sounds like something one of any of hundreds of kiddies who post in the art forums at Gaia would come up with.

Also, I really do fail to see what's new with it. I see no significant difference from your previous artwork. The anatomy still looks like it was never learned, just copied until the most basic shape (with vague notion of function/internal structure) is able to be produced. The face still looks like features drawn onto a balloon, no sense of depth (and again, no notion of an internal structure).

If you want to get better, learn anatomy, and take life-drawing. And don't believe that since you're drawing anime-inspired or comic inspired or etc. that life drawing is a waste of time. It will give you the fundamentals that you need to be able to draw. Even exaggerated figures need to have an understanding of the form, of anatomy, in order to be able to be constructed well.

Also, on "an artist who can be trusted", you do realize that, for a project that's intended to be commercial like you seem to intend yours to be, you will likely have to pay them, correct? And not after it's finished. You will need to pay them a good chunk up front as well, because they will have living expenses to take care of when giving time to your project.

When did I say it was a waste? I said that my only reason for drawing at all is because it would cost me over a $300 per 4 pages to commission an artist. And it's because of that, there was no reason for me to even bother to get better (mostly because my learning disorder makes it difficult for me to learn anything without working twice as hard as regular normal people). Heck I actually hate drawing. I improved over time completely by accident since I made no real effort to ever get better and drew only because I wasn't skilled enough of a writer to describe my characters enough to paint a mental picture. That and out of sear boredom/depression.

As for my freak outs, as it's plainly seen on my thread and on every site I've ever posted this on (7 to be exact), only 3 people each on 3 different sites has ever commented in my thread/post in the past year. Which means I've must of fucked up real bad with the story (aside from skipping 36+ episodes/chapters ahead of the story but I doubted anyone would care about that since it would all get posted anyway besides it seriously needed a lot of rewriting since half of it is was just terrible the way it was). So yeah I'm really trying to fix the problem but it's hard to do when the only 3 people post about it regularly.

It's pointless to argue that they look that way on purpose since it still comes out as a design flaw. So I know that I'm not ever going to get away with that.

I'll admit that naming a style was possibly them dumbest thing I've ever done.

[Loyal]

As for my freak outs, as it's plainly seen on my thread and on every site I've ever posted this on (7 to be exact), only 3 people each on 3 different sites has ever commented in my thread/post in the past year. Which means I've must of fucked up real bad with the story (aside from skipping 36+ episodes/chapters ahead of the story but I doubted anyone would care about that since it would all get posted anyway besides it seriously needed a lot of rewriting since half of it is was just terrible the way it was). So yeah I'm really trying to fix the problem but it's hard to do when the only 3 people post about it regularly.

Getting better is full of "fuck ups". That's how you get better. You learn from your fuck-ups, you learn what you're doing wrong and what you're doing right, and you get better as a result. There is no "accident" or "purpose" to it.

I've spent 3 years planing 5 years worth of comic/story events out.[...] I've given my project more attention then I've given my friends and family (who them selves are busy 80% of the time anyway).

This is the other frustrating thing. You're obsessed over a project to the point of excluding most other aspects of your life (I believe you mentioned failing out of college a worrying number of times, as well?), and yet because of your flippant attitude towards the obsession in question, it still hasn't evolved into anything worthwhile.

Writing and drawing are core parts of your project. If you're spending so much time on it, you had damn well better get good at doing both, because it's going to take a while before it becomes marketable at the snail's pace you've been taking in making it marketable. Like Skweeb said, if you put half the effort into improving yourself that you put into defending your work, you could actually get something workable.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Loyal

Getting better is full of "fuck ups". That's how you get better. You learn from your fuck-ups, you learn what you're doing wrong and what you're doing right, and you get better as a result. There is no "accident" or "purpose" to it.

This is the other frustrating thing. You're obsessed over a project to the point of excluding most other aspects of your life (I believe you mentioned failing out of college a worrying number of times, as well?), and yet because of your flippant attitude towards the obsession in question, it still hasn't evolved into anything worthwhile.

Writing and drawing are core parts of your project. If you're spending so much time on it, you had damn well better get good at doing both, because it's going to take a while before it becomes marketable at the snail's pace you've been taking in making it marketable. Like Skweeb said, if you put half the effort into improving yourself that you put into defending your work, you could actually get something workable.

Me failing college was because of my ADD and how I was too ashamed of it to get help resulting in me failing multiple times. Most of my professors couldn't even believe I failed half as bad as I did.

I do when it comes to writing. The core reason updates are slow is because I'm always constantly rewriting a scene refining it to make as much sense and be as original as possible as well as learning more and improving as a writer. I'd rather take forever getting it to it's marketable level if it means the story will be good if not great. That's just how I roll.

[Loyal]

The core reason updates are slow is because I'm always constantly rewriting a scene refining it to make as much sense and be as original as possible as well as learning more and improving as a writer. I'd rather take forever getting it to it's marketable level if it means the story will be good if not great. That's just how I roll.

Just speaking from personal experience on this one: This is quite possibly the worst habit you can have as an artist of any medium. Break it immediately.

[CelesJessa]

Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend

And it's because of that, there was no reason for me to even bother to get better (mostly because my learning disorder makes it difficult for me to learn anything without working twice as hard as regular normal people). Heck I actually hate drawing.

Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend

Me failing college was because of my ADD

Yeah man and my nephew never learned how to play piano because he's blind and can't read the sheet music. Oh wait.... good thing he didn't let his disability get in the way of getting better/learning something.

*cough* Sorry. That dances right into the territory of my biggest pet peeve in the world.


Anyway, you don't have any desire to get better so I'm not going to write a big post arguing otherwise, instead I'll just move on to...

Loyal - I really like his right hand. I think you did pretty good with the foreshortening there! His left eye is a tiny bit bigger/too high up than the other eye, but that's just nitpicking. I really like his stocky build for some reason.

Got my drivers installed and finally got to play with my tablet on photoshop with pressure sensitivity. They're just boring sketches but I'm pleased with the results:

At the top is an original character from a story my friend and I tried writing. She's got all of that gear(she should have goggles on too, but I didn't feel like drawing them) on because she's from a future where people live underground because above-ground is a dangerous wasteland (dust storms, etc etc), but her job is to scavenge the ruins above ground for stuff to be used in the cities underground. (blah blah blah)

The next two are two of my characters from the Perfect World MMO I play. I've got a backstory for them going in my head while I play.

And then... Raiden is Raiden? I like drawing his hair. XD It's so pretty~

[Tev]

Originally Posted by Grandmaster_Skweeb

I've noticed something, celess. You really got a thing for older gentlemen, mustaches, and combination therein.


based off a very strange dream I had last night. The getup is designed to add extra weight and wind resistance to prevent Runners, as they were called in the dream, from reaching dangerous speeds and to aid in easier re-capture if one escapes.

Hey Skweeby, can you finish this one please? I really like where this is going and would love to see what the completed version would look like.

[Loyal]

My lord, CJ, that tablet has made WORLDS of difference. I really must wonder how you ever got along without it!

[CelesJessa]

Originally Posted by Loyal

My lord, CJ, that tablet has made WORLDS of difference. I really must wonder how you ever got along without it!

I-I hope you're being serious and not joking. XD I think it's made a big difference too, I think. :whee:

At the very least it made it easier/faster.