Pink Floyd kicking ass

[Professor Smarmiarty]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musi...pink-floyd-emi
Pink Floyd beat EMI in court for selling their songs individually- because it destroys the integrity of thier album concepts. That's totally awesome!

[Si Civa]

Artists' victory over company is always win in my books. More so when company is breaking the contract. That's the way we can made them fall!

And it's true that Floyd's stuff is better when listened as whole. However, this kinda doesn't apply in their early albums because those albums weren't that connected if I remember correctly.

But it's good thing anyway because this way the fans may actually hear songs that they like which they wouldn't download and they may even get the same song twice!

But you know, this piece of news made me sad. Dammit Rotten, I believed in you.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Oh man, that's exactly the same progression I've gone through on Pink Floyd- I've always been ridiculously outspoken against them because of their pretension while secretely admiring their work!
I guess we're all frauds!

[Mondt]

I actually have a problem with this.

They released two pieces: The content, and the music. What they are doing is limiting the music that can be sold for the sake of the content. This will decrease their sales to different people.

I mean, it doesn't have to be about the money. Yeah, they have a concept. But man, I really like Song Y but not really song X so much. I want Song Y! Well shit, I gotta buy Song X too? What a waste of money! No buy!

Not everyone is in it for the concept. They are creating music (however integrated the music could be to the concept) too and they are completely disregarding that. Seems pretentious.

Also, the Michaelangelo analogy is bullshit.

[Osterbaum]

Originally Posted by Mondt

Also, the Michaelangelo analogy is bullshit.

That's the first thing I thought of when I read the article.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by Mondt

Also, the Michaelangelo analogy is bullshit.

I'm not sure I see why. Considering that is exactly what happened to Roman art in modern times. A lot of Roman art was spread across say an entire building which didn't suit our viewing of art in museum as palatable single pieces so they cut up large works into lots of single pieces to view seperately in museums. And it absolutely murdered our perception of Roman art- it is one of the key reasons why Roman art was for hundreds of years considered inferior to Greek art- because we weren't presenting it in context.
And shit I could make a lot more cutting up Michelango's money and sellig them in bits than I could selling them whole.
And I mean shit, I only like the first few chapters of a book, why can't I buy books by chapter? I only like the guitar solo of Stairway to Heaven, why can't I buy that and not the whole song? I like Mankind's Fall From God's Grace- I don't particularly like the rest of the cistine chapel- can I just get that bit?
And I really don't think Floyd need to worry about exposure or money.

[01d55]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

And I mean shit, I only like the first few chapters of a book, why can't I buy books by chapter? I only like the guitar solo of Stairway to Heaven, why can't I buy that and not the whole song? I like Mankind's Fall From God's Grace- I don't particularly like the rest of the cistine chapel- can I just get that bit?

There really isn't any reason why you can't do any of those things. (Except the last one, since the Sistine Chapel shouldn't be sold off, piecewise or in total. But you can totally get a reproduction of just Mankind's Fall From God's Grace without also buying a scale model of the whole chapel to put it in, which is almost as good!)

[Mondt]

On top of oldguy's thing, selling songs stand-alone is pretty standard. I mean, it shouldn't happen just because its expected but people will sure be disappointed if they don't want to buy the whole album because they expected to be able to buy the song alone.

Artist integrity is cool, but people who just want one song obviously aren't in it for the concept anyway but could still be considered a fan. They are limiting their fanbase because they think their concept is more important than their music reaching people.

[Archbio]

They are limiting their fanbase because they think their concept is more important than their music reaching people.

Evidently they think that their concept is how their music can reach people.

What if a single song was picked, the "catchiest" sequence of it taken apart from the rest and sold? Would it be silly to feel that it would lose its artistic integrity then in a way that's worth objecting to?

When a small sequence of Blondie's One Way or Another is played over a thousand commercial, it doesn't reach anybody in any meaningful sense. I don't see how an album can't be considered a whole as indivisible as a song is. Otherwise it's essentially a standard of commerce dicating art very profoundly.

One thing that I wonder about: has Pink Floyd ever have single songs played over the radio?

[Si Civa]

Some of their work can't be listened alone anyway. Or I suppose that you could listen Shine of your crazy diamond first part and the second together but they don't flow as well as they do in the album. There's that Echoes version though and some other, but then we come back to the problem that you have to buy the whole album and why to buy Best of -album when you can have the orginal?

And like, I totally understand the other side's point and agree with them. But I can understand artistic point of view as well and I kinda think that I prefer artist's vision in this case, 'cause I've soft spot for astists in my liver.

Originally Posted by Archbio

One thing that I wonder about: has Pink Floyd ever have single songs played over the radio?

They have played them here and I doubt that Finns are that special in this case.