Pokemon Umbral Discussion 14: Discussion Thread Player Character Conspiracy #1 - Page 5

Dracorion · 04-26-2010, 09:10 PM

You do realize trainers get obscenely strong pokemon?

How about dual-wielding as an upgrade much, much later?

Alternately, how about an upgrade that makes Adrenaline Surge or Stamina Boost (whichever lets you attack twice) last for three turns? And then another upgrade that makes it last for five turns, and so on and so forth.

Geminex · 04-26-2010, 09:17 PM

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You do realize trainers get obscenely strong pokemon?

Slayers have base stats of 100. Adrenaline boost gives them 150, for total base stats of 900. When they get their half-demonic upgrade, they get even higher stats, and probably better weapons as well. So, you have an unit with ~200 attack, hitting you with super-effective, 150-damage attacks every turn.

What do trainers have that can keep up with that? And you want to double it?

Edit: I could imagine it if someone went Slayer/Slayer. It'd cost them an upgrade, but I could imagine it.

Dracorion · 04-26-2010, 09:21 PM

So. If Slayers are as powerful as you say, why can't I have a weapon that delas 6x damage against Ruin-types?

It probably still wouldn't keep up with your full Demon stat boost.

Geminex · 04-26-2010, 09:29 PM

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So. If Slayers are as powerful as you say, why can't I have a weapon that delas 6x damage against Ruin-types?

*hisses*
This isn't about balancing, it's about logic.
I'll make you a deal. You get the weapon, and its 6x damage , and, in return, nobody mentions the PATCA-zord ever again. Also, you'll support me on my "No dual-wield for Slayers" stance.

We'll work out the weapon's other attributes later... I'm thinking that, when you attack with it, you can pick between ghost damage and dragon damage, it only deals *shudder* both against ruin types. Also, when you go Battle Master it takes up two weapon slots. When you go Demonic Battle Master, we'll see what happens to it.

Is this acceptable?

Dracorion · 04-26-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

*hisses*
This isn't about balancing, it's about logic.
I'll make you a deal. You get the weapon, and its 6x damage , and, in return, nobody mentions the PATCA-zord ever again. Also, you'll support me on my "No dual-wield for Slayers" stance.

Not even Magnegross?

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Originally Posted by Geminex

We'll work out the weapon's other attributes later... I'm thinking that, when you attack with it, you can pick between ghost damage and dragon damage, it only deals *shudder* both against ruin types. Also, when you go Battle Master it takes up two weapon slots. When you go Demonic Battle Master, we'll see what happens to it.

I'm okay with picking between Ghost and Dragon damage except against Ruin types.

Hmmm... Two weapons slots? Part of me wants to go "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO". The other part is thinking "Hey, the only other weapon you probably need is the Ricewood Rifle!"

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Is this acceptable?

If this really is about logic, how do you justify it taking up two weapon slots with it's small dimensions? And whatever you'd do to nerf it when Pierce goes half-demon?

I'll agree to support you on no dual-wielding. I'll agree to picking between Ghost and Dragon damage, I'll agree to taking up two weapon slots and I'll agree to drop Magnegross, but I think that's enough.

Geminex · 04-26-2010, 11:35 PM

Magnegross is ok. Just no zord. And I don't intend to nerf it, I intend to buff it. More info later.

Dracorion · 04-27-2010, 12:37 AM

So we have an accord?

By the way, are you ever going to edit your RP post?

Menarker · 04-27-2010, 12:48 AM

So Pierce and Charlotte both seem to be set on Pokemon Trainer / Slayer in the future. I myself am thinking of going Dual Pokemon Trainer (at least atm). Any thoughts on dual classing options you'd take, Geminex or Bard?

Geminex · 04-27-2010, 12:56 AM

Well, I'm going Slayer/Half-demon/Full-demon. No dual-class for me.
What were you thinking, what'd the Trainer/Trainer get?

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So we have an accord?

By the way, are you ever going to edit your RP post?

Yes and yes. Just gimme time, we're moving at the moment, so my schedule's a bit erratic.

To follow up on this:

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More info later.

Like I said before, I was thinking that demons/slayers get a signature weapon, which does neutral damage by default. If yours does ghost/dragon damage by default, I'll have to reconsider the other weapons I was planning. That's what I meant when I said "When you go Demonic Battle Master, we'll see what happens to it.".

Astral Harmony · 04-27-2010, 01:18 AM

@ Geminex (Middle of Page 1): Actually, PATCA's slogan is "We set the standard in having absolutely no standards." Try working that shit into a jingle.

@ Menarker (End of Page 1): Yes, Dormond can Baton Pass his stats on to allies. Y'see, this is why Rayleen wanted to make Renny the leader. You're so goddamned clever that it makes Rayleen want to choke him for being smarter than her in regards to Pokemon battles.

@ Dracorian (Start of Page 2): Shizuka can be a pretty motivated girl as well when it comes to freedom fighting. If you want to get on her good side, you'd better be ready to bid farewell to your world and live in the netherworld with her, crossing over with her into new worlds and fighting alongside her and looking only at her with those perverted eyes and whatnot. Eh, I think you can do it.

@ Geminex (Third Post of Page 2): And prosthetic arms, though it does look cool on her. One warning, she's not really used to it yet so request her to give you a handjob with her remaining arm.

@ Geminex (End of Page 4): You'll get more accessories, I promise. Remember when I mentioned the accessory that works like Explosion? I decided that it wasn't a joke. Ricewood Masterworks is always surging ahead with awesome technologies!

Now I'm Talking: Alright, Dormond's next Pokebrid form will be Tentacruel with the Synchronization Technique of Tentacle Rape. Just what the Charlotte ordered, so open wide and say "ahhh."

I pass the motion of combining the Dragon Slave with Phantomere's Shaft to create the Piercechucks, named after their clinically insane mastermind. It will be the Dragon Slave and the shaft tied together at their ends with a length of indestructible Big Red-flavored dental floss, because every weapon should rightly be a reminder to maintain proper dental hygiene at all times.

Besides, do remember that Pierce is not a Slayer. x6 crap damage is x6 crap damage, everybody. And don't forget how humiliating it would be to actually try wielding that mess of a weapon...

Shizuka: "Good lord, man. What in the hell are you trying to hit them with?"
Pierce: "P-...Piercechucks?"
Shizuka: "That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard since Nyoka suggested to Fujiko that a magical girl transformation would allow her to achieve her original human form."
Pierce: "Really?"
Shizuka: "It gets worse. Fujiko actually tried."
*flashback*
Fujiko: "With the radiance of love and the tears of a pure virgin's dreams, I destroy evil with the beating of my heart turned into pink laser beams! Shining Maiden Fujiko is here!"
Kirie: "Ahhh, my whole body is devouring itself!"
Rio: "Hawt."
*end flashback*
Shizuka: "And when you see something like Fujiko posing in the frilliest piece of shit you can buy off of e-bay while rhyming about love and rainbows and destroying evil, then you'll never be able to un-see it."

Anyways, I'll get posting in the real RP now.

04-26-2010, 09:10 PM	#41
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	You do realize trainers get obscenely strong pokemon? How about dual-wielding as an upgrade much, much later? Alternately, how about an upgrade that makes Adrenaline Surge or Stamina Boost (whichever lets you attack twice) last for three turns? And then another upgrade that makes it last for five turns, and so on and so forth. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

04-26-2010, 09:21 PM	#43
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	So. If Slayers are as powerful as you say, why can't I have a weapon that delas 6x damage against Ruin-types? It probably still wouldn't keep up with your full Demon stat boost. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

04-27-2010, 12:37 AM	#47
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	So we have an accord? By the way, are you ever going to edit your RP post? __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

04-27-2010, 12:48 AM	#48
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	So Pierce and Charlotte both seem to be set on Pokemon Trainer / Slayer in the future. I myself am thinking of going Dual Pokemon Trainer (at least atm). Any thoughts on dual classing options you'd take, Geminex or Bard? __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

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04-26-2010, 11:35 PM	#46
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Magnegross is ok. Just no zord. And I don't intend to nerf it, I intend to buff it. More info later.

04-27-2010, 01:18 AM	#50
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	@ Geminex (Middle of Page 1): Actually, PATCA's slogan is "We set the standard in having absolutely no standards." Try working that shit into a jingle. @ Menarker (End of Page 1): Yes, Dormond can Baton Pass his stats on to allies. Y'see, this is why Rayleen wanted to make Renny the leader. You're so goddamned clever that it makes Rayleen want to choke him for being smarter than her in regards to Pokemon battles. @ Dracorian (Start of Page 2): Shizuka can be a pretty motivated girl as well when it comes to freedom fighting. If you want to get on her good side, you'd better be ready to bid farewell to your world and live in the netherworld with her, crossing over with her into new worlds and fighting alongside her and looking only at her with those perverted eyes and whatnot. Eh, I think you can do it. @ Geminex (Third Post of Page 2): And prosthetic arms, though it does look cool on her. One warning, she's not really used to it yet so request her to give you a handjob with her remaining arm. @ Geminex (End of Page 4): You'll get more accessories, I promise. Remember when I mentioned the accessory that works like Explosion? I decided that it wasn't a joke. Ricewood Masterworks is always surging ahead with awesome technologies! Now I'm Talking: Alright, Dormond's next Pokebrid form will be Tentacruel with the Synchronization Technique of Tentacle Rape. Just what the Charlotte ordered, so open wide and say "ahhh." I pass the motion of combining the Dragon Slave with Phantomere's Shaft to create the Piercechucks, named after their clinically insane mastermind. It will be the Dragon Slave and the shaft tied together at their ends with a length of indestructible Big Red-flavored dental floss, because every weapon should rightly be a reminder to maintain proper dental hygiene at all times. Besides, do remember that Pierce is not a Slayer. x6 crap damage is x6 crap damage, everybody. And don't forget how humiliating it would be to actually try wielding that mess of a weapon... Shizuka: "Good lord, man. What in the hell are you trying to hit them with?" Pierce: "P-...Piercechucks?" Shizuka: "That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard since Nyoka suggested to Fujiko that a magical girl transformation would allow her to achieve her original human form." Pierce: "Really?" Shizuka: "It gets worse. Fujiko actually tried." flashback Fujiko: "With the radiance of love and the tears of a pure virgin's dreams, I destroy evil with the beating of my heart turned into pink laser beams! Shining Maiden Fujiko is here!" Kirie: "Ahhh, my whole body is devouring itself!" Rio: "Hawt." end flashback Shizuka: "And when you see something like Fujiko posing in the frilliest piece of shit you can buy off of e-bay while rhyming about love and rainbows and destroying evil, then you'll never be able to un-see it." Anyways, I'll get posting in the real RP now.