Pokemon Umbral Discussion 30: Less and Less About Pokemon Each Day

[Geminex]

The whole Rogue Pokemon nonsense came out of when Charlotte tried to shoot Shannon as a deterent to doing that again. Wanna kill the Trainer? Sure, but it's only going to make things worse for you. I needed to think of a logical reason to keep enemies from just attacking the personally defenseless trainers. I thought about having a Pokemon get in the way of the attack, but it didn't work for me for some reason.

I think rogue pokemon are a good idea! I think it's great for stopping us from killing defenseless trainers!
But not all trainers are defenseless! If you dual-class a trainer and a combat class, you end up with a trainer that enters combat themselves. But the way you said it, "going rogue" protection doesn't just protect defenseless trainers, but also said battle-trainers. There's a huge difference between the two, and applying it to both is really a bad idea, since Combat Classes should be O-HP-able without enormous consequences.

And Dracorion? I am going to ask you again. Edit your post. Not only are you god-moding in it (it isn't up to you to say what the volume of Impact's speech is, that's mine and AB's job), but your character is giving the orders that I thought up and wrote up, and intended for Impact to give. Both of those, particuarly the second one annoy me severely. This is the last chance you will get to comply and... minimize the consequences.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

And Dracorion? I am going to ask you again. Edit your post. Not only are you god-moding in it (it isn't up to you to say what the volume of Impact's speech is, that's mine and AB's job), but your character is giving the orders that I thought up and wrote up, and intended for Impact to give. Both of those, particuarly the second one annoy me severely. This is the last chance you will get to comply and... minimize the consequences.

Well, let's see:

A) Ahaha hahahaha hahahahaha! Seriously? I mean, as far as god-moding goes, that's pretty tame, isn't it? If I had said that Impact tried to talk then started choking on his own blood and almost dying. Or losing an arm. Or, for the benefit of us all, his vocal cords.

B) Didn't we agree to be somewhat democratic about order-giving? Moon and Kurika probably heard Impact's every word, anyway. And it's not like Pierce gave out the whole plan. Renny could've given some specific orders too if he wanted.

Anyway. I'll edit my post. Pierce won't hear Impact, but he won't be giving orders.

Except, before I do that, you have to tell me what these consequences you keep talking about are. I'll edit my post regardless of what you say, but I'm curious.

[Geminex]

A) It's not far, but it's further than I'd like, and than is beneficial to you.

B) Then let us discuss the allocation of command. I am more than willing to compromise, you know this. But the extent of your attempt at discussion amounted to telling me that Impact couldn't give orders, which, like I said, is not an effective way of approaching me.

Consequences? The usual. Pretty much, I'd actively start looking for ways to screw you over, instead of doing so passively. That does not sound very impressive, I am aware, but I am confident in my ability to manipulate circumstances so that Pierce ends up unconcious and tied in a chair, with Charlotte and her shotgun in the same room and no witnesses around. If I was really desparate I'd probably work to isolate Pierce from the team and discredit him, then kill him during the end-game.

[Dracorion]

That's not nearly as detailed as I hoped. But I'm editing my post now anyway.

And really, you can discredit Pierce all you want, that bastard ain't dyin'.

And if he does, he'll just claw his way back from hell to kick your ass.

[Geminex]

Actually, I'm considering whether to suggest to AB to start the sequel that way. Everybody dies, the Kimonos somehow find them in the Netherworld, and their first challenge is to fight their way back into life.

Because
a) Impact's going to want to kill all of you
b) He's likely to succeed
c) Even if he doesn't succeed, he'll arrange things so your pesky insistence of remaining alive has a minimal effect on him.
d) So, for you to be able to hurt Impact, you can't have him expecting you. Dying and then coming back is the best way to do that.
e) Also, I promise, I'd write up such awesome death-scenes, you'll love them. Even if you die.

And your edit is... acceptable. I will assume that Pierce's scouter is malfunctioning due to Rachel's magnet crush.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Because
a) Impact's going to want to kill all of you
b) He's likely to succeed
c) Even if he doesn't succeed, he'll arrange things so your pesky insistence of remaining alive has a minimal effect on him.
d) So, for you to be able to hurt Impact, you can't have him expecting you. Dying and then coming back is the best way to do that.
e) Also, I promise, I'd write up such awesome death-scenes, you'll love them. Even if you die.

I challenge most of this. From b to d, specifically.

Also, most of us will presumably be half-demons before the sequel. And, y'know, I'm pretty sure when demons and half-demons die, they stay dead. Otherwise, why should any of them have to worry about dying? Hell, the Netherworld should be a fucking mess if everyone is immortal. I mean, seriously, shit be FUBAR'd all up in there.

I'm pretty sure you only get one free pass. You die as a human, go to the Netherworld. Then, you have to scour the Netherworld for a Magatama, then you have to find your way back to whatever world you came from, and then you get a second chance as a half-demon.

I mean, what's the downside if you die again and go back to the Netherworld? You're already a half-demon, so it's not like you have to chow down a Magatama again, and you already know the way back to your world.

Besides, say none of us ever die. Wouldn't that encourage us to play purely offensively since we don't have to worry about staying dead, just like if we were battle classes with pokemon? I'm pretty sure the Kimonos have to worry about staying alive, at least.

Originally Posted by Geminex

And your edit is... acceptable. I will assume that Pierce's scouter is malfunctioning due to Rachel's magnet crush.

Or maybe Impact's scouter got smashed by the Guilty Flare. Or something.

[Geminex]

Or maybe Impact's scouter got smashed by the Guilty Flare. Or something.

I like my version better. How else is everyone going to know what to do?

And hell, it can be a one-time thing we do for plot purposes. I'm sure there's one bit of mythology or another that can be used to justify it.

As for b-d...
I'm not saying he can face you alone. But when you're an uber-dictator, you don't have to, you can get your Deputies and Strike Squads ("Scythetips") to take care of your former allies one-by-one, especially when it seems like they're all terrorists.

[Menarker]

Well, once Dante posts, we'll be ready for AB. And for a new thread too. ^^

[Bard The 5th LW]

Where has Dante been recently? I haven't heard from him much.

[Geminex]

Didn't he say he was busy with theatre again?