Pokemon Umbral Discussion 37: You Don't Want To Enter This Thread

[Dracorion]

Pierce would probably either sit it out until the fighting starts, or sneak in.

He can totally sneak in, you know. He wasn't exactly the kind of thief that blasted into a heavily guarded vault and kicked all sorts of ass.

Well, he did that too, but not all the time.

[Geminex]

See, that'd be taking a risk. You'd be risking that Impact likes it, and asks the kimonos for a sex change along with his demonic powers and then you'd have an Impact with not only steadily growing mind-control powers, but also...
other, less steadily-growing but more bouncy mind control powers. D'you really wanna give him the ability to seduce anyone? Do you really?

[Menarker]

AB: Is it possible to delay an action until after the enemy phase, like having a pokemon stall for time before using a technique, although carrying the risk that it might be knocked out before it can use it?

Also, does Simple ability work for all things that boosts stats like Irene's aura (if she was in the proper location) or the stat booster of an engineer? Or only items and moves get affected?

Gem, if you click on my signature's respective link, you can find the bios of the PCs ready for you to click on their names and find out their pokemons and the movelists for the current mission. Admitably, I hoped you would edit your own bio so your movelists were in it too.

[Dracorion]

Not to mention your Signature Techniques and Love-Techs, ya lazy bum!

Also, somehow I'm not too worried about Impact becoming a trannie. Mostly because everyone on the team would know what he used to be. Granted, some of them probably wouldn't mind doing she-Impact anyway.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain if Renny can't be artificially aged via Magatama, Impact can't have a sex change.

[Geminex]

Hey, Menarker.
Menarker.
Y'know why I'm giving up leadership in return for balancing? That is fucking why. Because you, even when you know that it's bullshit, will run to AB asking him to agree on something that pretty much gives you and only you more power. You're abusing the fact that he's far too willing to say yes to stuff, and that's really fucking pathetic.
How do I know that you know it's bullshit? This little nugget of enlightenment:

although carrying the risk that it might be knocked out before it can use it?

Yeah. Wow. Huuuuge risk. 'Wow. My pokemon's defense is boosted to the absolute maximum level. I suuuuuure do hope that it doesn't get knocked out before it can use its technique!'
And even if that weren't the case, the player could probably quite easily determine whether or not their pokemon is gonna get knocked out. I mean, you don't have to delay. You'd have the choice to. The point is really fucking neglegible, it's a very minor downside
And you're smart. I'm pretty sure you know this. So why would you write it?
Hmm...
Ooh! Ooh! I know! Could it be that you're quite simply trying (and, admittedly, failing horribly) to present your requests in a neutral light (despite being aware that the request is anything but neutral, cause why else would you try?) so AB won't realize what bullshit they are, and are as such thus manipulating the DM to the other player's detriment? Cause I'm pretty sure that's what you're doing.

[Menarker]

When I asked the questions about dual-classing to AB a few months ago, (Pokebrid-Slayer. Yes, I'm triple-classing) he pretty much said that pokemon-brid moves would be proportionally increased by proportionally Slayer-ish power so they aren't stuck only using slayer weapons which are more powerful than their respective pokemon moves, although weapons allow them a level of diversity and come with powerful status afflictions. Then again, when I asked that question, I told AB that Renny wouldn't be using slayer weapons, as a sort of trade-off. The pokemon moves would be pumped to slayerish levels, but I would forfeit weapons, fighting more like a pokemon, but with the benefits of armor and accessories and other slayer bonuses. I also assumed that the character would only be able to attack once, and that attacking twice was supposed to be the special reward of going further into the Slayer's class.


EDIT: The reason why I asked about delays was because AB said that's how he would do it for some other moves that have negative priority or work better with lower priority like Payback or Avalanche, since we don't actually use speed stat very much for anything but crits in this setting. From a roleplaying perspective, stalling is possible since it's just waiting your turn. But I wanted to ask if AB intended for that to be permissible, (and thus others in our group could stall moves like Recover or Payback and such moves that might work better if they did get delayed) or keep it more or less as close to the game as possible and not do it.

Also, you brought up the thought that it MIGHT not work. Drac brought it up too before that. But neither of you brought it up to AB to make sure. I'm just doing exactly that. If AB says no, I won't pursue it.

And yes, Mollesk is pretty much one of the best choices for stalling, but he's still weak to OHKOs and status afflictions. I mean the Betas got a move that has 100% confuse and 50% flinch. That is already a great way to stop him in his tracks.

[Astral Harmony]

Time's up and I gotta go to work. I'll get on those questions right after I get home and then hopefully finish the comic tonight.

In the meantime, here's the picture that inspired the Psychic Pseudo-Legendary, Unownaut.



I saw it on Gelbooru a few times and couldn't resist.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

And yes, Mollesk is pretty much one of the best choices for stalling, but he's still weak to OHKOs and status afflictions. I mean the Betas got a move that has 100% confuse and 50% flinch. That is already a great way to stop him in his tracks.

Just because Mollesk can be taken out in some obscure retarded way doesn't mean it's suddenly entirely fair.

Damage dealing is and always will be the primary method of taking out enemies. Making your little son of a bitch practically immune to that is what lights up all our warning lights.

No, it's different from Tsujimi because that one's only immune to debuffs. It can still be taken out by status effects or a good old-fashioned ass kicking.

And if you try to bring up that Tsujimi has no weaknesses: A) it doesn't have any strengths either, and B) remember that video you showed me before of Shuckle maxing out it's defenses and taking a STAB super-effective hit from Groudon? I think it then went on to use Power Trick and one-shot said Groudon.

You might argue that "but our enemies are all really strong!" in which case I would remind you that out of all the pokemon, Mollesk was the only one who survived Gardenoir's Signature Technique. It then went on to take a fireball to the face from Cerulean Wildfire, which was really only effective because of the oil.


So yeah, I'm generally going to be against you getting ways to abuse Mollesk's insane defence.

As it is, that item Mollesk has is pushing it. "Oh, but he can't use attacks with it!" It lets your little fucker use Power Trick on its ridiculous defences and attack in the same turn.


And AB, Unownaut is a one badass mother.

[Bard The 5th LW]

How come I can't see any picture AB post?

Like, I can see when I pull the link out of a quote, but thats it.

[Dracorion]

Clearly, it's a sign from AB that you suck and he disapproves of Charlotte's promotion to leader.

Or maybe you just suck.