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Unread 08-19-2010, 02:10 AM   #41
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I try to avoid awful movies, but I'm going to go with the obvious answer and say Twilight.

It wasn't really a forced-to-watch thing so much as we all decided to watch it to make fun of it, but it...it would have been too easy. Like you're playing COD or something and there's this old lady and she has no idea what's going and Yeah, you could pwn her, but do you really want to? Do you want to pwn her? What satisfaction is there to be had?

And I don't know where this fits in the with the old lady playing call of duty simile, but there was also the sheer revulsion of how awful the movie is and how depressing it is that people actually like it.
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Unread 08-19-2010, 02:46 AM   #42
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I don't get all this twilight hate. I mean what were you expecting? It's a movie designed around boys without shirts and the romantic sensibilities of young girls, which to be honest it does pretty well. It delivers what it promises.
I could shit on every movie for not being Tarkovsky's the sacrifice but unless that is what it sets out to be, that's a little unfair.
You knew what you were getting into and you not really the target audience. The teletubbies is pretty predictable but I'm not going to rag on it.

That is why I dropped out Attack of the Clones because it could have been really good, there was a lot of promising ideas at play, the formula worked in the past, we promised intergalatic war and instead got a tedious love story mixed in with Jake the Muss being chased around the galaxy by Alex Renton and neither of them are on anything.
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Unread 08-19-2010, 05:35 PM   #43
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The Last Airbender might be the worst movie experience I've ever had just because of all the build up and the horrible horrible disappointment. But 2012 was pretty bad. I mean, like, really pretty bad.
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Unread 08-19-2010, 06:02 PM   #44
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I don't get all this twilight hate. I mean what were you expecting? It's a movie designed around boys without shirts and the romantic sensibilities of young girls, which to be honest it does pretty well. It delivers what it promises.
I could shit on every movie for not being Tarkovsky's the sacrifice but unless that is what it sets out to be, that's a little unfair.
You knew what you were getting into and you not really the target audience. The teletubbies is pretty predictable but I'm not going to rag on it.

That is why I dropped out Attack of the Clones because it could have been really good, there was a lot of promising ideas at play, the formula worked in the past, we promised intergalatic war and instead got a tedious love story mixed in with Jake the Muss being chased around the galaxy by Alex Renton and neither of them are on anything.
Twilight wouldn't be so bad if it didn't teach girls that being, well, just watch this review: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...t-Saga-Eclipse
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Unread 08-19-2010, 06:22 PM   #45
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I couldn't watch that review because the reviewer was an annoying fuckhead making asinine points that he thinks are clever as shit but basically I geuss you're complaining about the whole submissive Bella thing.
Yeah that exists but it also exists in a fuckload of other stuff teenage girls read/watch. Take away Twilight,they'll find another source for it. Twilight is a symptom not a cause.

And shit, if we're complaining that you can't cast good lights on morally repugnant characters Paradise Lost wants a word.
Lots of the greatest films ever made have fucking awful awful messages at their core. If you're complaining that Twilight is a bad film becuase of its message, then the only film in the history of mankind that isn't bad is Battleship Potemnkin.
Moral of the story is- if you take inspiration from film characters you're going to turn into an awful person no matter what the fuck you watch.

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Unread 08-19-2010, 06:32 PM   #46
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I couldn't watch that review because the reviewer was an annoying fuckhead making asinine points that he thinks are clever as shit but basically I geuss you're complaining about the whole submissive Bella thing.
Yeah that exists but it also exists in a fuckload of other stuff teenage girls read/watch. Take away Twilight,they'll find another source for it. Twilight is a symptom not a cause.

And shit, if we're complaining that you can't cast good lights on morally repugnant characters Paradise Lost wants a word.
Well, aside from that, Meyer is just not a very good writer and thinks that using big words is supposed to help that. I've seen better writing come out of high school classes. For that matter, most kids in high school at least have a grasp of their audience's vocabulary. If you're reading Twilight, you probably have a dictionary on the table for reference and in the case of most high school students, if they're not using it at least once every few pages, they probably are spelling bee competitors or have simply given up and started guessing from context just so they can slog through the story.
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We're talking about the movie but if we're talking about the book- pretty much all popular literature is trashy, particularly teenage literature. Sure it may be worse than others but it's not like they're going to be reading Calvino or Ellis Sharp if they stop reading twilight. They'll read the babysitters club.
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Unread 08-19-2010, 06:51 PM   #48
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We're talking about the movie but if we're talking about the book- pretty much all popular literature is trashy, particularly teenage literature. Sure it may be worse than others but it's not like they're going to be reading Calvino or Ellis Sharp if they stop reading twilight. They'll read the babysitters club.
Obviously you haven't read The Wheel Of Time Series....13 books in all and a world just as rich and varied as Tolkein's.

Let me also bring up Isaac Asimov and his Foundation Books.

How about Jim Butcher's Dresden Files?

Or anything Jules Verne or H.G. Wells ever wrote?

Or Mercedes Lackey?
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We're talking about the movie but if we're talking about the book- pretty much all popular literature is trashy, particularly teenage literature. Sure it may be worse than others but it's not like they're going to be reading Calvino or Ellis Sharp if they stop reading twilight. They'll read the babysitters club.
I don't think you realize that the movies actually all use the dialogue from the books. That's one of the biggest complaints, actually, because the dialogue simply isn't that good.

Let's be honest here, most teen trash stuff, or at least the teen trash stuff from when I was in high school, wasn't nearly as damaging as Twilight, and from personal experience, it was written better. It was far from intelligent, but at least it was readable.

Also, saying that kids wouldn't be interested in respectable works even if they weren't reading Twilight is as weak an excuse in Twilight's favor as I've ever heard. There are degrees of poor quality and something can be a much better quality and still readable by teens, like Harry Potter or Ultimate X-Men or clothing tags.
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I don't think you realize that the movies actually all use the dialogue from the books. That's one of the biggest complaints, actually, because the dialogue simply isn't that good.

Let's be honest here, most teen trash stuff, or at least the teen trash stuff from when I was in high school, wasn't nearly as damaging as Twilight, and from personal experience, it was written better. It was far from intelligent, but at least it was readable.

Also, saying that kids wouldn't be interested in respectable works even if they weren't reading Twilight is as weak an excuse in Twilight's favor as I've ever heard. There are degrees of poor quality and something can be a much better quality and still readable by teens, like Harry Potter or Ultimate X-Men or clothing tags.
Proof to point, my mentioning of the Wheel of Time series. That is college-level literature and I was reading it in 9th Grade. Not to mention Isaac Asimov, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, and other classic Sci-fi/Fantasy lit.

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