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09-03-2010, 02:19 AM | #41 |
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Heh.
Too be honest, I thought Slayer level 2 was too weak, that his pokemon shouldn't share the stat boost for Inspiration but just each get the full boost, and that his Slayer 3 stat boost should be 15. But I figured, "naaaaaaaaaaaaah, they're already gonna wanna nerf it to all hell, just leave it as is." I also considered giving Pierce something like a Paradigm Shift or RPDA for his Demon levels. But I decided against it because it would only come out a Super Saiyan and no one wants to see that. EDIT: Pierce and Impact would boost Renny how? I'm fairly certain Aura Growth only affects the PC and (if they're a Trainer) their pokemon.
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09-03-2010, 02:30 AM | #42 |
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Oh. I thought that Aura Growth was an AOE effect that helped other Slayers and Pokebrids (and pokemons including your own).
^^; Nevermind. Anyhow, yes Paradigm Shift/RDPA would be pushing too far in my view. Your character will be a constant force to be reckoned with. Pierce and his Pokemons. But I wouldn't mind Inspiration at Half Demon 5 giving both pokemons 20 stats (taking Aura Growth in consideration). Last edited by Menarker; 09-03-2010 at 02:34 AM. |
09-03-2010, 02:31 AM | #43 |
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Eh, feel free to ask AB anyway.
Oh, and Inspiration's stat boost to Pierce's pokemon would actually be 30 after Aura Growth, not 20.
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09-03-2010, 02:37 AM | #44 | ||
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I think you should change the text to - The skill Inspiration is improved. Whichever pokemon is with Pierce in the field gains 10 points in all stats. This stacks with the previous upgrades. The bonus is applied to both pokemon out in the field with Pierce. You know, for better grammer and less confusion. It's fine with me though. |
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09-03-2010, 05:10 AM | #45 |
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Well, see, my problem is this: If we use your proposal for speed, speed really wouldn't be worth it. I mean, a few stages in crit? Sure, it can be helpful. And not getting critted back is pretty useful too. But I think that it's already at the limit. And making speed the "less important" crit factor (cause you can feasibly reach max, or close to max, without it), really makes it just a dump stat. As does the existence of items which boost crit as much as a good speed stat would (because if you have the choice between a hold item and having to put lots of points into speed, which would you take?). If we want crit to be dependent on a stat, we need to make it depend on that stat heavily, because otherwise that stat would just be far less important than the others. That's why I made my proposal the way I made it, I want speed to be just as valuable as attack or sp. attack. And if we do things your way, I really don't think it is. My way's a bit better (I think), though you're right in that it disadvantages a few pokemon. But if it really becomes necessary we can re-buff those on a case-by-case basis, when they pop up in the RP. Better than leaving the speed stat crippled. Drac... Well, in total you're, I think, getting 360 base stats (+ 50 to everything, with another +30 to defensive stats) for Pierce throughout your progression. Plus, your mons all get +30, as you've said. You get some accessories, some custom hold items, some trainer actions. I actually think that works really well. If anything, you're a bit below Menarker's level, since he, I think, has more offensive power still. Though only slightly... And about Cover: Would this be a free action? Would Pierce get rage from it? Would Pierce be able to counter with it? Not saying it'd be imbalanced if it were, just want to know. Other than that, everything seems cool with your template. Unless you drastically change that, we should be able to work out any future changes you'd like to make. That was actually the reason I wanted Menarker to go first. I didn't see anything wrong with it. And yeah, like I said, still don't. 'Xcept for those questions about cover, everything's fine. |
09-03-2010, 08:18 AM | #46 | |
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Yeah, Menarker, I did intend for the bonus to be divided between Pierce's pokemon originally.
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I could have it use up Pierce's attacking action, though he'd still be able to use an item. Well, it has an RP cost, and I believe the rule for skills that cost Rage is that you don't gain Rage when you use them. Well, my gut instinct says yes. I promise not to actually enact the game-breaking strategy I posted before. You okay with Menarker's suggestion that the Inspiration boost should apply fully to both of Pierce's pokemon instead of splitting it between them? Also, about that decreased Rage cost Pierce gets for Demon Half 4. I was thinking it should apply to stuff like accessory use, Sweep (if Pierce had it), Focus and Divide, and of course Cover. I dunno about having it apply to Signature Techniques and Love-techs. I'm thinkin' no.
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Preliminary approval. I'll trust you not to abuse it. Wow. That's... two down, three to go. This is going quicker than I had expected. |
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09-03-2010, 10:07 AM | #48 | ||
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That would work.
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I still have three other characters to plan upgrades for. Anyway, revised: Already earned: Level 6 onwards: Conditional Upgrades Pierce's stats: HP: 100 Attack: 120 Defense: 80 Special Attack: 105 Special Defense: 75 Speed: 120 Total: 600
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09-03-2010, 10:08 AM | #49 | |
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Edit: Though just so this post isn't completely inane, I'm gonna post mine tomorrow, still working on them. If Bard or Dante wanna go next...? |
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09-03-2010, 10:21 AM | #50 |
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Actually, I might post Sophia's or Elizabeth's next.
Not much to do today, and I figure what the hell.
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