Obama has a good grip on his ankles

[Jagos]

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0

which is a bit of a weird thing to say. (I know what you mean, just had to double-take what you said to really get it cause I read it the above way the first time and was confused as to what you were saying)

Basically, we need more of a proportional system so we can get fresher ideas into Congress. Currently, our electoral system sucks. Complaining about Democrats vs Republicans is small potatoes if you can't force a change elsewhere in the system.

[Marc v4.0]

I doubt anything short of armed revolution can force any change, and even then people have been so deluded they'd gladly shoot the people rising up to save them from the big government they all fear.

[Aerozord]

I think it was jefferson that said there should be a revolution every so many decades, just so the goverment doesn't become complacent.

Sad thing is if we did have a revolution it probably wouldn't be the oppressed, it would be an ideological red state vs blue state one. So no matter who wins we'd essentially be right back where we started

[Melfice]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

I think it was jefferson that said there should be a revolution every so many decades, just so the goverment doesn't become complacent.

Sad thing is if we did have a revolution it probably wouldn't be the oppressed, it would be an ideological red state vs blue state one. So no matter who wins we'd essentially be right back where we started

So, basically what you're saying is "Europe? I know we asked a lot of y'all, but look at it like this. You'll only gain from this shit for a change."



A hostile invasion, endorsed by the people being invaded.

EDIT: Assuming Europe wouldn't be nuked into oblivion, of course.

[Hanuman]

America, you need to get your shit together buddy.

[shiney]

They would [be nuked into oblivion], by people too stupid to know they're fighting against their own interests. Just look at all the public calls to, let's face it, murder Assange.

[Marc v4.0]

That treasonous traitor

[Tev]

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0

That treasonous traitor

What else would you expect from a native of Britan's penal colony?

[Marc v4.0]

get drunk and fall over while yelling at the natives

SNAP

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Melfice

So, basically what you're saying is "Europe? I know we asked a lot of y'all, but look at it like this. You'll only gain from this shit for a change."



A hostile invasion, endorsed by the people being invaded.

EDIT: Assuming Europe wouldn't be nuked into oblivion, of course.

this wouldn't cause any long term change. America will unite to fight this threat but when its beat things will go back to normal.

If you mean another nation conquering US, well thats just not possible. For one even in this modern era America is very defensible. Other is, we are the most powerful nation militarily and economically. While China is rising, even they still aren't there yet. Besides, you do not poke the bear. We are ineffective because we are squabbling. Like I said an invasion would temporarily have an effect as most of the nation uniformly puts its focus onto steamrolling the enemy.

but after they are beaten, right back to the fighting.

actually thats probably it, americans just like to fight. But never want to be the ones to start it.