FFD6: The Dicening: The Discussion: Uno, Dos, Tres, Quatro, Cinco, Cinco, Sies

[McTahr]

Originally Posted by Krylo

Roll again and I'll tell you how many rounds are left!

I swear to god I will cry. I will take a picture of me crying and post it. And then you will feel bad right before you AUGHFUCKANEURYSM.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by McTahr

I swear to god I will cry. I will take a picture of me crying and post it. And then you will feel bad right before you AUGHFUCKANEURYSM.

Your tears are delicious.

[McTahr]

You'll have more than mine to enjoy when it becomes party knowledge. Next round for that, and the second check, I suppose.

[Teal Mage]

The truth finally came out eh? Hilarious.

Hey Krylo, I'd like to have Arden cast Cure on Kole in the Elevator, is that alright?

I'll post tommorow morning, as usual. We survived, wonderful!

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Teal Mage

The truth finally came out eh? Hilarious.

Hey Krylo, I'd like to have Arden cast Cure on Kole in the Elevator, is that alright?

Yup.

We survived, wonderful!

For now!

That was the easy part, remember?

[Geminex]

Hey Gem, you know Caspin had an ounce of respect for Docus after he gave him the benefit of the doubt back at the Inn. You know where that respect is now? Down the fucking toilet, that's where it is. He is going to be a very unhappy camper when this is all said and done.

Also the team has three rounds to finish boss two before Caspin flips out and eats the Fresk.

Oh come on. Because he didn't set a hive of killer bees on fire? Really?
Really?
Cause I'm pretty sure that's one hell of a riks to take.

And besides, if you wanted me to, you could've made a lore check. But like I said to Drac:
It could have helped us by damaging a lot of bees.
Or it could have just made all of them attack us.

I mean, jesus, everyone's acting like fire is a guaranteeed 100% good thing, yes indeed. But you don't think that, if he used it, it might just antagonize more bees, rather than killing them?

Edit: I mean come on. If you're gonna make your character a jackass at least make him a rational jackass.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Oh come on. Because he didn't set a hive of killer bees on fire? Really?
Really?
Cause I'm pretty sure that's one hell of a riks to take.

And besides, if you wanted me to, you could've made a lore check. But like I said to Drac:
It could have helped us by damaging a lot of bees.
Or it could have just made all of them attack us.

I mean, jesus, everyone's acting like fire is a guaranteeed 100% good thing, yes indeed. But you don't think that, if he used it, it might just antagonize more bees, rather than killing them?

Edit: I mean come on. If you're gonna make your character a jackass at least make him a rational jackass.

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&...q=smoking+bees

Edit: Also, it doesn't really matter if you think it's a risk when half of your team is telling you to do it. It still makes you culpable when you don't do it and things go poorly.

Edit I lied about that being all: And whether someone did a roll or not is in character knowledge that Docus wouldn't have. All he would know is that Caspin knows about monsters, thus he should, in character, assume that he knows what he's talking about unless he has a reason not to.

I won't say WHETHER I did a roll, but Docus wouldn't know either way.

Metagaming makes me angry.

[Geminex]

a) If docus had fried the hive when they told him to, he would have simply wasted a spell setting an empty hive on fire. Cause the queen spawned during their phase, before the spell would have struck. He is actually right.

b) He doesn't have monster lore, he couldn't know that until he was told. And he wasn't told about 'smoking bees'. A 4 cha and a 6 cha character yelled at him to set the tree on fire. These same characters had previously tried to murder each other over what was more or less a lover's spat. It is totally in-character for him to be skeptical.

c) And I actually do know about smoking bees. But I am not entirely certain how that translates into final fantasty and 1-foot Killer bees. I mean, for all I knew, you were planning on just having 10 of them spawn at once as they escape their burning hive.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Geminex

a) If docus had fried the hive when they told him to, he would have simply wasted a spell setting an empty hive on fire. Cause the queen spawned during their phase, before the spell would have struck. He is actually right

He's wrong.

I was giving Docus one last chance to NOT be dense and wouldn't have spawned it if you cast that round.

This is also why the fluff text says it exited just after the spell went off.

Edit: The spawning of Royal Guards was supposed to be a hint, as well.

b) He doesn't have monster lore, he couldn't know that until he was told.

Caspin does. And he's a blue mage--whom are all basically experts on monsters from fluff.

And he wasn't told about 'smoking bees'. A 4 cha and a 6 cha character yelled at him to set the tree on fire.

And a 3 cha character, who is a blue mage and the character with the best monster knowledge of the group.
Edit3: OK, I guess Caspin is actually only tied with Fie and Argath in monster lore, but that really doesn't change anything.

These same characters had previously tried to murder each other over what was more or less a lover's spat. It is totally in-character for him to be skeptical.

When three people on a 7 person group tell you to do something, it is called team playing to do that thing. Those three people have every right to be mad at you when you don't do it.

I will be slightly surprised if Docus isn't in some way punished for nearly getting the group killed.

Edit: For the record I'm not arguing that Docus did the wrong thing for his character IC. I am arguing that it is totally ok for the other characters to decide that he doesn't get any reward IC as well, because, welp.

Edit2: As you said about Caspin, it's totally ok to RP a character in a way that pisses everyone off if that's in character for them, so long as you accept that there will be IC consequences to it.

[Krylo]

Ok, soooo, this PROBABLY came off harsher than I meant it.

Gem: Docus was totally in character. I support Docus's actions as Docus is Docus. I further support DOCUS telling everyone that they are still wrong to be mad at him and being kinda flippant about anything they say or do and trying to spin everything back onto them even though Docus didn't listen and things went south.

I recognize entirely that you had IC reasons, potentially GOOD ones, given your character, for Docus to still do what Docus thought was best even when told by three other people that something else was best.

What I don't like, and what I'm arguing at you about is the tone you are taking in the discussion thread when you justify yourself. For instance, you could have justified Docus's actions with something along the lines of, "Well you guys are kind of low Charisma, and Docus is arrogant, and thought it was a risk, so he just didn't believe you yet. I'm sure we'll still be able to kill this bee, though, so no need to get angry about it!" which would sound less like an attack on your fellow players.

This is compounded by the fact that you give off this feeling in the way you choose your words that makes it seem like you think you are better than everyone else. MAYBE it is just a language thing, I know English is probably your second language and all, but it doesn't make it any easier to read.

And then there are some things, like this: "If you're gonna make your character a jackass at least make him a rational jackass." Which just read as attacks on your other players, and I can't see any way you meant it differently. Maybe instead you could have just said he was maybe taking his anger at Docus a little too far, and OC would probably say something about how Caspin is a dick who does that kind of thing--but at least we wouldn't be attacking each other out of character.

Basically, what I'd like from you is to keep playing Docus as you have been, but treat the other players in the thread more kindly.

Except Drac. You guys seem to have some kind of hate-lust thing going, and I'm not going to get in the way of that.

I mean, it's a game. We're here to have fun.