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Unread 08-08-2011, 07:29 PM   #121
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In terms of comics missing the point:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/0...miles-morales/
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Unread 08-08-2011, 07:35 PM   #122
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In terms of comics missing the point:
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That is soooo true.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 07:35 PM   #123
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I know my school was unusually integrated, but is this really a thing anymore? No one I've ever met in my generation really cares
It very much is. Racism is alive and well in the world.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:03 PM   #124
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...but is this really a thing anymore?
Yes. It is.

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It very much is. Racism is alive and well in the world.
It's nice that there is some level of insulation against such an ugly thing, I just wish it didn't have the side of effect of making some of those of us who have been insulated from it think that legitimate accusations of racism were cases of 'crying wolf'.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:17 PM   #125
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It's nice that there is some level of insulation against such an ugly thing, I just wish it didn't have the side of effect of making some of those of us who have been insulated from it think that legitimate accusations of racism were cases of 'crying wolf'.
better then the alternative of it being omnipresent. Might be isolated, but it does show progress if we are at the point entire communities view it as an oddity
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:32 PM   #126
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better then the alternative of it being omnipresent. Might be isolated, but it does show progress if we are at the point entire communities view it as an oddity
It's more complicated than that. I agree that it would be a great thing on a large scale but there are a couple of problems with it's current state.

1)White people are usually protected from first hand experience to the finer details of how racisim effects people, even within diverse communities. As a white person in an extremely liberal city, I have had to go out of my way to understand that not only does racisim still exist, more often in subtle ways, here, but also that racial minorities are still suffering the effects from eras where blatant racism was completely acceptable.

2)Being insulated from horrible things means you are in a bad position to accept their reality. There was a point during WWII where the more horrible of Nazi activities were generally unknown. If they had been known, a lot of suffering could potentially have been avoided.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:39 PM   #127
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It seems like everyone could agree that the superficial traits of the character (appearance, race, sexual orientation, favorite tv shows, etc.) being built so as to be inclusive to minorities is a positive thing so long as the writers use them to effectively influence the character's personality instead of relying on meaningless stereotypes to characterize him, which is what it sounds like Jagos was on about though I'm not sure.
Yep. The characterization is important. Having it shoved in our faces, in an interview, instead of letting us see how the character progresses, seems more like a way to undersell the character and form wrong opinions.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:40 PM   #128
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yes I see your point but it is an era that must exist. You cant go from intolerance straight to colorblind society. As I said its progress. Sure there are still issues, never said their aren't, but it does show we are moving forward and as long as it keeps moving then its a good thing.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:46 PM   #129
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You cant go from intolerance straight to colorblind society. As I said its progress.
No one is saying this so I'm not sure what you mean.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:48 PM   #130
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No one is saying this so I'm not sure what you mean.
The way you phrased your post made it sound as if it were worse that there are certain areas that are completely tolerant, when other areas aren't, because that horrible evil thing lead to Nazi Germany becoming what it was.
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