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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:26 PM   #161
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RPG stop killing yourself, its not the answer... unless you want to divert suspicion by putting yourself on the chopping block! Is that your angle?

I'm sticking with IHMN just on principle of making him shut up with the images now.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:29 PM   #162
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It's entirely likely Nikose was joking in that instance.
The Night 0 insinuation (or at least the notion that a 'Night 0' could exist or whatever) was actually kind of sort of...out of place.
And, Nik definitely was not acting like his usual self. I mean, I sort of was serious about that part of the argument.

Nik actually alleviated my concerns on that front by not changing his habits thereafter and responding with the same degree of jest (if only because Scum would've felt pressured at that moment and possibly felt the need to proffer a serious defense and/or revert back to his more 'typical' or 'expected' brand of arrogant self-aggrandizing behavior.)

But you see, the entirety of my argument wasn't based on the Night 0 thing, which you can sort of make some sort of claim regarding, I suppose (though I still think it's entirely likely Nik is shooting the breeze for grins and giggles.) It was based on the notion that Nik was setting me up for a fall based on predicting I'd die N1.

And if you look at the logic, it's kind of flawed. Not only was Nik not ultimately the only person who predicted I'd die N1 (and two scummates wouldn't out themselves by making the same prediction), far more importantly, my argument against Nik included leaps of logic.

Mind you, I wouldn't have shouted "TRAPPED!" if IHMN and Sifright, say, voted for Nik, but then actually justified their votes for Nik, and maybe threw in something self-aware like "Snake's case against Nik isn't totally convincing as I think he's over-analyzing things, but Nik also did X and Y and Z and that smells scummy."

Unfortunately, that's not what happened. Instead, they both bandwagoned Nik will providing no evidence aside from reposting my own arguments. That is a scum strategy. Doesn't mean both IHMN and Sifright are scum, probably means at least one is scum, definitely is a better hunch than anything else I have to go off D1.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:40 PM   #163
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The SK is self-aligned meaning that he is trying to kill off both the Mafia and Town to win. They can kill one person a Night.

If you're thinking "Holy shitbricks, that sounds hard" then yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of the SK actually winning a Mafia game.
I've done it. It was awesome.


As for Snake's IHMN and Sif argument, the problem is that's not how mafia would act day 1 even if they were acting as obvious as you think. The mafia behaving as you suggest would finish off a bandwagon, not be like the 2nd and 3rd members on. The 2nd and 3rd members on a bandwagon need to provide additional information, the 6th and 7th say do not need to.
If the mafia were looking to do what you say, they would wait for additional members to get on the bandwagon, the 2nd and 3rd positions on the bandwagon are too obvious.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:43 PM   #164
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Incidentally, I was gonna use Poker (All but one card of a straight on the table in Texas Hold'em, the new player keeps his pair of aces, since he doesn't see it), but then I thought Magic would be a better example.

And, hey, you play Magic with your friends. Friendship is Magic.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:47 PM   #165
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I've written four posts and then not posted due to people posting in the mean time, but snakes assertions that one of either myself or IHMN being a scum is pretty silly you have nothing to base it on and if you are really as knowledgeable about the game as you say thats a scum move to convince the town to lynch the other player when it's found out the one they first lynched was town.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:47 PM   #166
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The Night 0 insinuation (or at least the notion that a 'Night 0' could exist or whatever) was actually kind of sort of...out of place.
And, Nik definitely was not acting like his usual self. I mean, I sort of was serious about that part of the argument.

Nik actually alleviated my concerns on that front by not changing his habits thereafter and responding with the same degree of jest (if only because Scum would've felt pressured at that moment and possibly felt the need to proffer a serious defense and/or revert back to his more 'typical' or 'expected' brand of arrogant self-aggrandizing behavior.)

But you see, the entirety of my argument wasn't based on the Night 0 thing, which you can sort of make some sort of claim regarding, I suppose (though I still think it's entirely likely Nik is shooting the breeze for grins and giggles.) It was based on the notion that Nik was setting me up for a fall based on predicting I'd die N1.

And if you look at the logic, it's kind of flawed. Not only was Nik not ultimately the only person who predicted I'd die N1 (and two scummates wouldn't out themselves by making the same prediction), far more importantly, my argument against Nik included leaps of logic.

Mind you, I wouldn't have shouted "TRAPPED!" if IHMN and Sifright, say, voted for Nik, but then actually justified their votes for Nik, and maybe threw in something self-aware like "Snake's case against Nik isn't totally convincing as I think he's over-analyzing things, but Nik also did X and Y and Z and that smells scummy."

Unfortunately, that's not what happened. Instead, they both bandwagoned Nik will providing no evidence aside from reposting my own arguments. That is a scum strategy. Doesn't mean both IHMN and Sifright are scum, probably means at least one is scum, definitely is a better hunch than anything else I have to go off D1.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:49 PM   #167
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Why the hell is it that so many people like think I am absolutely incapable of logic
Apparently according to you all I should just never post anything again
So, uhh...
I'll take a break
At least for now because I have a three-hour International Law class to look attend. =/
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:51 PM   #168
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Oh no you are completely and totally capable of logic

It's just that reading your posts is a somewhat similar experience to that of a nun slapping you in the face with a fish if you were a nun and the fish were words.
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Unread 09-26-2011, 04:56 PM   #169
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To elaborate on my Bookworm-hunch, he was the first to accuse smarty without much justification, and then encouraged people to jump on the 'bandwagon'. When I said that looked suspcicious, he unvoted smarty two posts later. That too much to go on?
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Unread 09-26-2011, 05:00 PM   #170
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Fuck it enough for me on day 1. especially with deadlineapproaching.
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