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Unread 10-04-2011, 12:53 PM   #231
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Unread 10-04-2011, 05:17 PM   #232
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EDIT: Times Rose Tyler turned out to actually have been born in the Tardis making her a timehumanlord with magic and everyfing: also 0.
Times River Song took in the core of the Tardis and pretty much became a god, destroying the crap out of everything and making some dude immortal: Also 0.

I don't dislike Rose, I don't dislike River. It's silly to say that River is ridiculous in what she does, when you take into account Rose's ridiculousness. That, the whole breaking into different universes, and even aborted timelines in a different universe (Never really explained), by taking apart the Tardis and building something out of it.
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Unread 10-04-2011, 05:22 PM   #233
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Unread 10-04-2011, 05:55 PM   #234
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Yeah, which is a shame because having a foreshadowed event that was built on previously established character traits and created other interesting plot avenues would be vastly superior to just deciding that by the way, River Song is also magical sweeeeetie. That Rose remained flawed and human in spite of channeling the time vortex was a whole thing. If River Song did that at this point, I'm pretty sure she'd just become a magical fairy goddess forever.

The Time Vortex God thing isn't even much of a deus ex machina except in the literal god-from-the-machine sense, since that's exactly what happened (this is tangental, but I want to mention it). It didn't come out of nowhere (it was absolutely foreshadowed both by showing us the Heart of the TARDIS, and how stupid Rose was willing to be regarding temporal consequences for people earlier in the season), and it only resolved matters only in the sense of removing the immediate threats, but left all kinds of issues hanging. It took an episode to accomplish, and the immediate consequences lasted for another episode, which is quite a bit of time when a season is only thirteen episodes long.

The shit things about Rose Tyler were when everyone just talked about how great Rose Tyler was, and when they just way overdid the Doctor's (and occasionally other peoples') feelings with regard to her. Also they had a tendency to force her into plots in awkward ways, making her really important in places she didn't really belong. River Song gets all of this turned up to eleven, and it's made constant instead of something that just crops up here and there.
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