My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia - Page 110

Gregness · 10-09-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

I swear to god I will beat you with a stick through the internet.

Yeah, if for some reason we run out of scum leads again I'd support a Policy Lynch on Verifiedz.

I mean, not like I'm expecting to live to tomorrow, but still.

IHateMakingNames · 10-09-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenris

Mr.Bookworm, Sweetie Belle, Cutie Mark Crusader, Town-aligned was sent to a dungeon on the moon.

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Originally Posted by Fenris

Cutie Mark Crusader, Town-aligned

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Originally Posted by Sifright

claim

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Originally Posted by Karesh

Probably because it's been a pretty uphill battle for him to try and convince everyone to trust us when really all the pair of us need is for enough of the town to trust us enough not to lynch us.

Of the list, here's what I think in broadest terms:

Town
1. Karesh
2. Sifright
4. Earl
5. Gregness
6. Hawk
8. IHateMakingNames

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Ok, lets think this through guys Alds definately town, I'm stating my self and Karesh to be TOWN. If the PO has proof that either my self or Karesh and two other townies are TOWN I think it might an idea for him to shout that information out that would give a 6 man voting block bringing us to 40% of the votes and players from there If the mafia have 5 players and an SK thats 40%. which leaves 20% of the players unverified. That leads to us being able to have a 2-1 chance of lynching a mafia player and the vig has an even better time of it later on presuming he isn't one of the ones identifyed by the PO

PO if you can fulfill that condition of confirming my self and two other townies please do it. Nikose is claiming 'wrong PO'

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Personally I think if we did a full role call it would work pretty well but thats risky.

IHateMakingNames · 10-09-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenris

4. Karesh

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7. Sifright

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10. Earl

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12. Gregness

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21. IHateMakingNames

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The Players

In Ponyville
1. Bard

3. Nikose
4. Karesh

6. greed
7. Sifright

9. Verifiedz
10. Earl

12. Gregness
13. rpgdemon
14. Julford Hajime
15. Hawk

17. Ryanderman
18. Revolving Ocelot

21. IHateMakingNames
22. Oron

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Personally I think if we did a full role call it would work pretty well but thats risky.

IHateMakingNames · 10-09-2011, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenris

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Sifright · 10-09-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Karesh

I believe the passive refers to the method of investigation.

Contextually with "Nosy Neighbor as the role name it makes sense that an active PO investigates the home of the accused and finds evidence. A passive one waits outside the house to see what the occupant is doing.

In addition there are several cases of Investigators being falsely led. They refer to this as "Sanity", a paranoid investigator always turns up scum, a naive one turns up only innocent.

Or...well, there's always the namesake pair. the 'Sane' cop and the insane cop. Who always gets incorrect results.
With that in mind it's possible that while Nikose has no functionality in accurate guesses, through his own inaccuracy he may have a use.

Yes I do wholeheartedly believe that the moment Fenris realized Nikose was given such a role he chose insanity as that roles key factor.

Karesh given how gregness stated his ability to work I think Nikose is lying out his ass. Things to consider about this situation, we are at an either or scenario and given how nikose is trying to frame the situation I don't think there is much chance he is town now, besides which he is still CHOOSING to investigate people that doesn't sound passive to me.

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Originally Posted by Gregness

Yeah, if for some reason we run out of scum leads again I'd support a Policy Lynch on Verifiedz.

I mean, not like I'm expecting to live to tomorrow, but still.

No bad idea, next game day is to crucial to kill some out of it just because they are a bad player we don't have the numbers left to the make that sensible.

given a worst case scenario, it's possible town will be down to a mislynch and lose. optimistically with the events going on now though I think we will have at least one more game day before it's mislynch and lose.

Assuming 5 mafiates and that we kill one today via lynch and assuming none of the night actions hit a mafia player, game day tomorrow will have us down to 7 Town, 1 Sk and 4 Mafia. (I think this result

more likely at this point. The vig hits a mafia as well

giving us 8 town 1sk and 3 mafia.

So a full roleclaim at this point probably isn't warranted.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 10-09-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

I support the lynch of RPGdemon today; I will investigate Bard tonight then, assuming I survive the night.

This is a clear indication that Nikoses ability requires him to send a name to Fenris to investigate them, which is exactly how a PO role would work. As such, it is 100% possible for a roleblocker to roleblock them.

The only point of contention I can see is how did gregness know to roleblock Nik last night, but even that isn't really unnusual. If he has a powerole, he may as well use it on a different person each night. If he happens to hit somebody and block their role ability that night, then it shows up in the fluff the next day (such as there suddenly being no SK or vig kill), confirming that persons role for him.

I admit it does seem coincidental, but it may really not be. I would be interested to know who else greg has attempted to block each night as well.

Sifright · 10-09-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk

This is a clear indication that Nikoses ability requires him to send a name to Fenris to investigate them, which is exactly how a PO role would work. As such, it is 100% possible for a roleblocker to roleblock them.

The only point of contention I can see is how did gregness know to roleblock Nik last night, but even that isn't really unnusual. If he has a powerole, he may as well use it on a different person each night. If he happens to hit somebody and block their role ability that night, then it shows up in the fluff the next day (such as there suddenly being no SK or vig kill), confirming that persons role for him.

I admit it does seem coincidental, but it may really not be. I would be interested to know who else greg has attempted to block each night as well.

Part i've bolded is very important. IF we know every one who Gregness has roleblocked we know who can't be the SK as the SK has killed every night. So this information is very useful for later game days.

Also, Nikose has been suspicious since day 2 with his posts especially lying about the things snake said and trying lead a lynch on him. So roleblocking Nikose doesn't seem that unusual to me.

Tempted to go back and do post by post analysis on peoples posts from earlier but I fear my analysis will be tainted by confirmation bias.

Gregness · 10-09-2011, 11:42 AM

I blocked Snake night 1 and Nikose night 2 so unfortunately, that doesn't help much with finding the serial killer.

EDIT: Basically, I was going to try to do what you guys are talking about (block someone each night 'till a kill disappears) and so when there wasn't a mafia kill today I was immediately suspicious of Nikose. Then with the investigator claim I figured giving us a solid lead was worth putting a target on my back and giving up potential information on future nights.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-09-2011, 11:51 AM

The roleblock does certainly stack against Nikose's guilt, but it seems that the SK and Mafia both targeted the same person rather than the mafia not killing anyone, if I interpret the NightmareMoon/Cackatrice combo appearance correctly. So if anything, the SK and Mafia are thinking alike.

e: IHMN, I'm a bit lost. You've been doing well so far, but some of these are confusing me.

Sifright · 10-09-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

The roleblock does certainly stack against Nikose's guilt, but it seems that the SK and Mafia both targeted the same person rather than the mafia not killing anyone, if I interpret the NightmareMoon/Cackatrice combo appearance correctly. So if anything, the SK and Mafia are thinking alike.

e: IHMN, I'm a bit lost. You've been doing well so far, but some of these are confusing me.

I think he is asking for a mass role claim. At least that was my assumption given his lack of quoting nikose and posting an image of carrot top I presume those are also the people he believes are town.

10-09-2011, 11:42 AM	#1098
Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	I blocked Snake night 1 and Nikose night 2 so unfortunately, that doesn't help much with finding the serial killer. EDIT: Basically, I was going to try to do what you guys are talking about (block someone each night 'till a kill disappears) and so when there wasn't a mafia kill today I was immediately suspicious of Nikose. Then with the investigator claim I figured giving us a solid lead was worth putting a target on my back and giving up potential information on future nights. __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein Last edited by Gregness; 10-09-2011 at 11:46 AM.

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10-09-2011, 11:51 AM	#1099
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	The roleblock does certainly stack against Nikose's guilt, but it seems that the SK and Mafia both targeted the same person rather than the mafia not killing anyone, if I interpret the NightmareMoon/Cackatrice combo appearance correctly. So if anything, the SK and Mafia are thinking alike. e: IHMN, I'm a bit lost. You've been doing well so far, but some of these are confusing me.