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Unread 12-22-2011, 04:55 PM   #21
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Unread 12-22-2011, 05:04 PM   #22
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Gaston also has one of the best songs that Disney has produced. Beast can't sing for shit.
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But only if he's rich. Gaston didn't have his own castle.
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I think it's pretty clear that the point of this thread is that he should have.
Now I want to make a Gaston character on either Skyrim or Mount & Blade: Warband.
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Unread 12-22-2011, 05:32 PM   #24
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I definitely see where you guys are coming from here, but as far as Disney princesses go, Belle's actually one of the better ones. Granted the kidnapping thing is messed up, but let's not forget about Snow "OMG I JUST MET YOU LIKE TWO SECONDS AGO WHEN YOU KISSED MY NEAR-LIFELESS CORPSE AND NOW I'M MAGICALLY IN LOVE WITH YOU FOREVER" White, or Cinder-"OMG I DANCED WITH HIM IN A TECHNICOLOR WONDERLAND BALLROOM FOR THIRTY SECONDS NOW WE'RE IN LOVE--okay actually I'm just using him as an excuse to escape my abusive home life because I'm a single woman in some sort of mideval European setting. Seriously, I don't even know the guy's name"-ella.

But anyway, I've always seen Belle as one of the three or four GOOD princesses Disney has.
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Unread 12-22-2011, 05:34 PM   #25
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I would argue that at least none of the princes in those films locked up any of those princesses' fathers, never locked them up, etc etc etc
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But anyway, I've always seen Belle as one of the three or four GOOD princesses Disney has.
Oh, I love Belle. As a character independent of the plotline she was haplessly thrust into, she's right up there with Jasmine as my Favorite Disney Princesses.
(Yes, I am a guy, and yes, I do maintain an ordered list of "favorite Disney princesses," leave it be.)

...That's why it's even more frustrating and disappointing that she of all likable characters is stuck with Beast. I mean, Jasmine wasn't in a perfect situation either, I won't claim Aladdin (as a movie) was an ode to strong feminist values, insofar as Aladdin got away with sketchy things himself and clearly was The Main Character who continuously benefited from his protagonist status, but Jasmine and Aladdin's relationship does not upset me nearly as much, for whatever reason.
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Unread 12-22-2011, 05:51 PM   #27
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Beast was better in Kingdom Hearts, of all things.

And Belle elbowed the most annoying boss in the game in the stomach and ran off when he tried to take her hostage, so it earns some points there.
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I would argue that at least none of the princes in those films locked up any of those princesses' fathers, never locked them up, etc etc etc
They were too busy being bland and/or mcguffiny. XD
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They were too busy being bland and/or mcguffiny. XD
Ssshhhhh Aladdin was awesome
I mean even I have a huge crush on Aladdin
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Man, yeah, Gaston is cool and all but I have to agree with Snake on nearly everything he said.

Aladdin is a pretty sweet franchise, after all...

But then there's Mulan and she SAVED CHINA and RESTORED HER FAMILY'S HONOR and shit and fuck it has the best song.
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