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Premmy · 05-09-2012, 11:27 PM

Sometimes he was Giant-man or Yellow Jacket.

Bells · 05-10-2012, 07:24 AM

So, this thing went around and has now gathered usd$ 744 Million worldwide in under 7 days and it's on it's way to beat The Dark Knight's Billion.

I guess we can fairly say it's an age of Super Hero Movies and more are coming...

Sithdarth · 05-10-2012, 07:42 AM

Man people trying to make sense of the Hulk, absolutely hilarious. You guys do realize that Banner weighs like 1/10 of what the Hulk ways right. So every transformation is creating shit tons of matter. The whole gamma ray thing doesn't work either since E=mc^2 so enough energy to create that much mass would weigh exactly has much as the mass. As a scientist and a Hulk fan I've learned to just enjoy the Hulk being the Hulk because he is one of the most physics destroying superheroes ever invented.

On a side note Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes Hulk is definitely the best Hulk because we get to see calm Hulk. Which means we get Hulk's personality with some degree of Banner's intelligence. Which lead to a wonderful scene where Tony is wandering around looking at some energy readings and can't figure them out. So he starts talking to Hulk about them and catches himself part way through because Hulk is dumb. Hulk then proceeds to casually inform Tony that the energy is a form of cosmic radiation. The look on Tony's face was just really hilarious. Just saying you can do smart Hulk you just have to do smart Hulk a certain way and he still has to smash stuff for no reason.

Lumenskir · 05-10-2012, 08:39 AM

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I'm kind of a casual I guess but this Ant-Man stuff sounds pretty hokey. Like it was a 1940s character that they found hard to justify in modern times. I mean just the name is stupid!

Not like SPIDER-MAN or BATMAN.

From what I remember hearing (it was on a podcast about a year ago) Wright's whole plan was to make the movie an homage to 1940's sci-fi serials (with a heavy emphasis on SCIENCE! as an explanation for everything), so he was planning on it being set outside of the current Avenger's present (like the first Captain America movie was). I don't know if he'll be allowed to do that now, seeing as Avengers is making serious money and Disney might chafe at bankrolling an idiosyncratic romp through the ridiculousness of comics' past, but I'm hopeful.

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Man people trying to make sense of the Hulk, absolutely hilarious. You guys do realize that Banner weighs like 1/10 of what the Hulk ways right. So every transformation is creating shit tons of matter. The whole gamma ray thing doesn't work either since E=mc^2 so enough energy to create that much mass would weigh exactly has much as the mass. As a scientist and a Hulk fan I've learned to just enjoy the Hulk being the Hulk because he is one of the most physics destroying superheroes ever invented.

Who is complaining about physics? I just think people were confused about the varying levels of control Hulk had throughout the movie, since the initial Helicarrier transformation being influenced by Loki wasn't as clear as it could have been.

Magus · 05-10-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithdarth

Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Just wanted to say that this show was/is surprisingly good. Easily on par with the Justice League cartoon of a few years ago (and way better than the old Avengers cartoon...)

Marc v4.0 · 05-10-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Who is complaining about physics? I just think people were confused about the varying levels of control Hulk had throughout the movie, since the initial Helicarrier transformation being influenced by Loki wasn't as clear as it could have been.

While it was certainly triggered by Loki, it is important to note that Hulk is like that when Banner loses control no matter the trigger. A blind rage that just attacks anything it sees because it can as opposed to a focused and channeled rage aimed carefully at something. I am very glad they showcased the difference in the movie, as it is an important aspect of The Hulk himself that he isn't just an uncontrollable force of nature, he can manage his own anger.

I was surprised my wife, who isn't a big comic buff and doesn't know much of the Hulk and Banner specifically, picked up on the difference in the situations. Equating it, on her own, to people with anger issues losing their cool vs focusing their ever-present anger at something of their own will.

Azisien · 05-10-2012, 06:12 PM

I didn't find the difference in the transformations very confusing, even on my first viewing. One is clearly Loki meddling, pain, etc. The other is him choosing to unleash the beast. Also he says "want to see my party trick" right before everything goes to shit on the helicarrier.

And physics destroying, pfft. He just hides the extra energy somewhere. I mean they keep saying the Hulk came from within Banner, right? Maybe it's literal. Banner has a pocket dimension in his heart! Full of Hulktron particles.

Bells · 05-10-2012, 08:24 PM

You guys complaining about Physics and Radiation and nobody mentions Hawkeye's "Fuck you" arrows.

Sithdarth · 05-10-2012, 09:17 PM

Hawkeye's arrows aren't that terrible. What's really up with Hawkeye is how he never misses anything ever and that can just be like a form of psychic powers. Thus completely made up and perfectly acceptable.

Bells · 05-10-2012, 09:37 PM

Thus "fuck you" arrows, i recall at least a half dozen trick shots where he wasn't even looking at the damn moving targets!

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05-10-2012, 07:42 AM	#113
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Man people trying to make sense of the Hulk, absolutely hilarious. You guys do realize that Banner weighs like 1/10 of what the Hulk ways right. So every transformation is creating shit tons of matter. The whole gamma ray thing doesn't work either since E=mc^2 so enough energy to create that much mass would weigh exactly has much as the mass. As a scientist and a Hulk fan I've learned to just enjoy the Hulk being the Hulk because he is one of the most physics destroying superheroes ever invented. On a side note Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes Hulk is definitely the best Hulk because we get to see calm Hulk. Which means we get Hulk's personality with some degree of Banner's intelligence. Which lead to a wonderful scene where Tony is wandering around looking at some energy readings and can't figure them out. So he starts talking to Hulk about them and catches himself part way through because Hulk is dumb. Hulk then proceeds to casually inform Tony that the energy is a form of cosmic radiation. The look on Tony's face was just really hilarious. Just saying you can do smart Hulk you just have to do smart Hulk a certain way and he still has to smash stuff for no reason.

05-10-2012, 06:12 PM	#117
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	I didn't find the difference in the transformations very confusing, even on my first viewing. One is clearly Loki meddling, pain, etc. The other is him choosing to unleash the beast. Also he says "want to see my party trick" right before everything goes to shit on the helicarrier. And physics destroying, pfft. He just hides the extra energy somewhere. I mean they keep saying the Hulk came from within Banner, right? Maybe it's literal. Banner has a pocket dimension in his heart! Full of Hulktron particles.

05-10-2012, 09:17 PM	#119
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Hawkeye's arrows aren't that terrible. What's really up with Hawkeye is how he never misses anything ever and that can just be like a form of psychic powers. Thus completely made up and perfectly acceptable.