Man of Steel 2: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice: Step Up 2 The Streets (of Gotham

[Solid Snake]

I guess.
But She Hulk's a kickass lawyer. I'd like to believe it's possible to like her as a character for reasons unrelated to the "sexual fantasy" she presumably portrays.

[Marc v4.0]

I'm sure she's had many great and empowering portrayals, but that doesn't erase a problematic origin, the same as having a problematic origin doesn't invalidate any changes in portrayal later on.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

...except She Hulk pretty much was created as the sexual fantasy counterpart to the Hulk male power fantasy. Nothing said there is really wrong..

No, it's pretty much wrong.

It's generally accepted that She-Hulk was created in response to the success of CBS's 'Incredible Hulk' television series that prompted theories that a female-centric spinoff was plausible, ala the 'Bionic Man/Woman' series that proved decently popular. If this occurred in the show first, the character's rights would have belonged to CBS, and Marvel wanted to cover its bases. Certainly writers since then may have done dubious things regarding her sexuality/sexual expression, but it wasn't there from inception. Mostly because she was introduced as Bruce's cousin gaining a similar powerset from an emergency blood transfusion, and comics weren't quite icky enough to make incest a thing (we can thank the Ultimates-verse for that).

Stan Lee's rebuttal

Gail Simone responds

[Bells]

Honestly? It's one of those things where the answer is more like ''Depends on who is writing her''.

In the hands of a shitty writer She Hulks can totally be nothing more than a green pin up girl... in the hands of a competent writer, she is a heroic female character.

So, if someone is not really familiar with the character... by having access to the ''wrong books'' they can totally get the wrong impression of that character. What matters here really is how that character was conceived as... the baseline of it's creative process of creation.

On the other hand... you should expect better research from the moron who did the first run on the the latest and most important movie for DC comics...

[Magus]

Stan Lee said the main idea with She-Hulk when they first created her was to have an intelligent Hulk character. That she is also hot is not really a particular by-product of She-Hulk but comic books in general. You could make the same dismissive statement about Batwoman, Spider-Woman, etc. if you wanted, but I think you would be wrong.

[Aerozord]

While I wouldn't rule out Stan Lee wanting a female hero to look sexy, I do know one thing. He loves challenging himself.

Spider-Man: Lets make a teenager a superhero with all the issues that come with it

Ironman: You know those rich elites that are part of the military industrial complex that our readers hate? I'm gonna make one of them the hero

The Thing: Maybe it might suck having super powers

The Hulk himself came about when he was writing generic monsters that rampaged, and him wanting to make a story about the creatures that normally exist just to give the protagonist an enemy.

So I have a much easier time believing She-Hulk was him exploring what the Hulk would be like with intelligence and restraint.

Also its been awhile since I saw early she-hulk. But I recall her not really fitting in with traditional beauty. More of a female body-builder than a super model.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I guess.
But She Hulk's a kickass lawyer. I'd like to believe it's possible to like her as a character for reasons unrelated to the "sexual fantasy" she presumably portrays.

She's basically the Phoenix Wright of the Marvel universe.

[Ryong]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Also its been awhile since I saw early she-hulk. But I recall her not really fitting in with traditional beauty. More of a female body-builder than a super model.

In general, it seems that the more muscle she has, the bigger her breasts are.

It's kind of conflicting.

[Azisien]

The movie will probably be a steaming pile of shit like Man of Steel.

But Synder is directing, so much like the Batsuit First Look, and all his other work, it will be a very visually incredible steaming pile of shit.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

So like the Triceratops pile in the first Jurassic Park? I always thought that was pretty incredible.

[Premmy]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

...except She Hulk pretty much was created as the sexual fantasy counterpart to the Hulk male power fantasy. Nothing said there is really wrong.

Factually wrong

Honestly, I have an incredible disdain for nerd culture because nerd culture is a toxic fucking cesspit of man-children and immaturity, and I can still enjoy superhero movies! There's nothing about making a really good, really strong superhero movie that does great that involves having to like the fanbase culture that surrounds it.

I love superheroes in ways that are probably not healthy but I agree with all of this. Nerds ruin everything, it's the only sane course of action to love "nerdy things and hate nerd culture.