chat room police

[Osterbaum]

how would it be different if they were on the job? seriously, if a cop "as a person" sees pedofilia or some other iliegal activity going on, would he not then report it? and then become "on the job"?

He would report it as a civilian if he would at all. And as I said, I'm quite ok with this IF something good really comes out of it.

[Splinter]

hmm, same here. It depends how well its implemented, and whether or not it can be shown to have any impact on internet crime.

[Illuminatus]

I have a question that is vaguely on topic:

Say a cyber-cop tries to catch a pedophile. If he pretends to be a underage girl, sets up a meeting and entices the criminal to come, isn't that entrapment? Or am I wrong...

[Viper Daimao]

i believe that could be considered entrapment, and because of that, its not how its done. cops have been catching people like in private meetings set up in chat rooms for years. they've been posing as prostitutes to catch guys for decades. they know how to not entrap the would be criminal.

[Crodevillian Team]

Say a cyber-cop tries to catch a pedophile. If he pretends to be a underage girl, sets up a meeting and entices the criminal to come, isn't that entrapment? Or am I wrong...

It can only be considered entrapment if the individual was persuaded to commit a crime that they had no previous intent to do.

If the officers merely provide circumstances that would -allow- the person to commit a crime, it is not entrapment. If the person actually makes the effort to meet the agent, then it cannot be considered entrapment because the person obviously was not baited to do something against their will.

Here; I'm not good at summaries. Here's a better definition.

[cellar_door]

under what law would it be done because remember as we all know thanks to that absolutely shit film of zeta-jones and connery entrapment is perfectly ok in the uk

[Osterbaum]

Its ok here atleast.

[h4x.m4g3]

Monitor this *gives the government the digital finger* ok I just needed to get that out of my system

for the thing about entrapment, I believe in order to catch the suspect lawfully, the pedaphile would have to be the one to suggest meeting somplace i.e. the cop can't say "Wanna come over and have some fun ; )" .

I think monitoring for Pedaphiles and the like is a good ideal, don't get me wrong, but I just don't like the ideal of being watched...hehehe....no I haven't done anything wrong...or planned to... yet

[Omega Mage Zero]

Children need to be protected from predators, few would argue that. But there is quite a bit of hysteria over child abuse that is enabling the government(s) to do things we wouldn't stand for otherwise and we may regret later. The same is true of terrorism. I think the government (US anyway) already monitors chat rooms, message boards, and sites at will. The "Wild West" days of the internet are ending.

I also hate the assumption that only people with something to hide are against it.

[Osterbaum]

I also hate the assumption that only people with something to hide are against it.

Cause it's totally false. People are not pedophiles or terrorists if they don't want this to hapen. Thats just ridicolous. Most people just see this as a thing that won't really of any use and would only hurt their private life. Even if this works it could be expanded to a much larger scale tan just monitoring pedophiles. Think about piratism for example. How many people would have to suffer for some stupid little violatns of the copyright laws? What about all other so called 'smaller' crimes?