Ultimate Marvel

[ElfLad]

Yeah, about the Ultimates, Captain America wtf? I mean, with anybody else, there might have been a moment of doubt, but when they make Cap the traitor, we know it's gonna be some cop-out about there being a set-up or mind control or something.

And Elmer, yeah, now that you mention it, that happened the first time, too. Are they running out of ideas?

[Elmer J.]

When in doubt, kill the best X-man again!
Yeah, no one can really not like Beast. Sure he's indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds, but he's Hank FREAKING McCoy. The fictional embodiment of awesome. He's pretty much superhuman in every aspect except no being blue and simian.

Since they haven't encountered a single clone yet, and it's the X-men for god's sakes. I'm pinning my hopes on a cloned Beast with pink skin restored. BUt if they kill him one more time...

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Elmer J.

When in doubt, kill the best X-man again!
Yeah, no one can really not like Beast. Sure he's indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds, but he's Hank FREAKING McCoy. The fictional embodiment of awesome. He's pretty much superhuman in every aspect except no being blue and simian.

Since they haven't encountered a single clone yet, and it's the X-men for god's sakes. I'm pinning my hopes on a cloned Beast with pink skin restored. BUt if they kill him one more time...

Four words - Ultimates black-ops program.

It explains why he had to disappear and boosts his bad-ass meter up a couple of notches. Plus if you have to bring someone back from the dead I'd really rather they were never actually dead to begin with rather than actually being dead and being somehow brought back.

He can even turn up again with pink skin and blue hair, that can be like the deal the Ultimates offered him for joining up.

Then he can slap the shit out of Ultimate Wolverine and drop him into an atom smasher and go get his girl back and all will be right with the Ultimate World.

... seriously though, I will say this much - I would bet any amount of money that one way or another he manages to come back within six months on either side of the movie release. Now Beast is in the Movie Marquee Name Magic Circle of Protection, he's going to be as magically unkillable as everyone else who's made it into a movie.

On the downside he will come back looking like Kelsey Grammer. Just accept it there's really nothing you can do.

[Elmer J.]

Originally Posted by ElfLad

Yeah, about the Ultimates, Captain America wtf? I mean, with anybody else, there might have been a moment of doubt, but when they make Cap the traitor, we know it's gonna be some cop-out about there being a set-up or mind control or something.

And Elmer, yeah, now that you mention it, that happened the first time, too. Are they running out of ideas?

Also, in reference to Captain america. I was hoping that he was taking The Ultimates out of the hands of Nick Fury, and using them more and more as an invasion force.
So The Ultimates are fighting the same conspiracy that tried to off wolverine in "blockbuster."


But then it turned out to be Black widow. And Russia's all evil again. boo.

[ElfLad]

Um... Did a new comic get out? Because the last one I read was just Cap getting taken down. Nothing about BW.

[Elmer J.]

Spoiler tag, please! Anyway. I don't have access to comics anyway, so I'm keeping up via wikipedia until I can get a subscription. That's how I know these things. It could be innaccurate, I suppose.

[Premmy]

Originally Posted by Elmer J.

I'm pretty sure that was the first time, when he almost died, but was saved by MArvel Girl and Prof. X mind-reading surgeons. I could be wrong, though. Maybe he saved a girl twice.

The first time he had a bomb go off under him "or something" were Storms exact words. I'm going with bomb he does'nt have super senses so theoretically he could get caught by a trap bomb they didn't really show what happened, just that it happened

[skulldaddy]

i meant that Millar killed Beast, not Bendis, and Oeming Killed 616MU Thor...err evoled him past the Norweign Karmic Loop or something...

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by skulldaddy

i meant that Millar killed Beast, not Bendis, and Oeming Killed 616MU Thor...err evoled him past the Norweign Karmic Loop or something...

Nope, it was Bendis bagged the Beast.

But yeah, nobody knows what that thing with Thor was about.

[Elmer J.]

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Four words - Ultimates black-ops program.

I was reading an old issue yesterday, and I found a passage where PRof. X is talking to Nick Fury about how cool Beast is, and Nick Fury says that Beast is definitely tagged because of his intelligence and skill, but his age is a problem.

So it looks like you're right.

EDIT: Exact quotes

Originally Posted by Prof. X

Not thinking of signing him [Beast] up for that man's army you run on the other side of town, are you, General?

Originally Posted by Nick Fury

Not until he graduates from here, no, but his abilities and intellect have definitely marked him for attention. I hope you ain't got a problem with that, Professor.

Remember that Beast had recently transferred to the Academy of Tomorrow because he was ashamed about exposing Angel on the Internet before he "died" in an attack by a Sentinel sent by an unknown member of the government.