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Unread 01-12-2006, 06:30 PM   #151
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Sorry about not editing my earlier post to add this, but something is wrong with the edit button, while i will be posting about in a minute.

I realize that by judging by forum name, that could mean anyone. It just seems like it would most likely be TWWDI
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Unread 01-12-2006, 06:30 PM   #152
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Though all of these arguments are good, there is one fact that all you you overlooked. This was murder by gunshot. How many of us(and this is judging by forum name) look like they would use a gun? My best answer to that question would be The Wizard Who did it. And before you just shrug off my argument as a "OMG he accused him because "He Did it!"", note that i have given this a good amount of thought. He could have any means of being able to kill at his disposal. Thats why my vote goes as follows.

Vote: The Wizard who did it
Eh, I'm starting to lose faith in the "searching the murder post for clues" idea. It seems like both murders have just been done in typical pirate style. First cutlass, second, flint-lock pistol. The next murder will probably be via cannon or grappling hook or something.
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Unread 01-12-2006, 06:30 PM   #153
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Though all of these arguments are good, there is one fact that all you you overlooked. This was murder by gunshot. How many of us(and this is judging by forum name) look like they would use a gun? My best answer to that question would be The Wizard Who did it. And before you just shrug off my argument as a "OMG he accused him because "He Did it!"", note that i have given this a good amount of thought. He could have any means of being able to kill at his disposal. Thats why my vote goes as follows.

Vote: The Wizard who did it
Just because he had the means to kill someone doesn't mean he is part of the mafia in this game. My avatar has a giant sword and you don't see me killing everything I see with it. Plus he has provided us way to much info to be a mafiate.
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Unread 01-12-2006, 06:39 PM   #154
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Just because he had the means to kill someone doesn't mean he is part of the mafia in this game. My avatar has a giant sword and you don't see me killing everything I see with it. Plus he has provided us way to much info to be a mafiate.
I would like you to recall your vote, Mr. Blood. I am a wizard, and as such don't really use guns. I was also ticking down until someone accused me. Which it seems to have happened.

Anyways, the main reason why I quoted this was because I have to say I have the need to correct* Mestizio.

First Note: I really didn't contribute that much, just to the psychology of the game.

Second Note: This is important. Just because someone is an informant doesn't mean he isn't mafia. I remember someone saying that Psycho was too analytical. That's a bad thing, that means he can play at a deeper game. For whatever side he's on, which is hopefully ours.

If I were mafia, I would have a plan along those lines. I will not state it considering that it will give those scummy bastards ideas (not being offensive to bastards, or scummy people). They can probably guess it anyway, or have their own plan.

*Not trying to be offensive or have a 'superior than thou' attitude.
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Unread 01-12-2006, 06:43 PM   #155
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If I were mafia, I would have a plan along those lines. I will not state it considering that it will give those scummy bastards ideas (not being offensive to bastards, or scummy people). They can probably guess it anyway, or have their own plan.
If I were mafia I would just be sitting here laughing as everyone points fingers and only post when absolutely nessesary to seal the fate of their lynching victims.

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I remember someone saying that Psycho was too analytical. That's a bad thing, that means he can play at a deeper game. For whatever side he's on, which is hopefully ours.
Either your saying that its bad to accuse someone for being analytical, or you're saying my analytical style is bad and I should go play a different game. Not sure which...
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Unread 01-12-2006, 07:15 PM   #156
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I'm gonna take this game a little more seriously now. We are killing people after all. *says a little prayer for the departed Newb*
You voted for him because, apparently, "The cool kids were doing it" and now you're praying for him? It's atonement I guess, but it's kinda in bad taste

Note: Please stop reading my old posts as if they were the bible. Think for yourself.
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Unread 01-12-2006, 07:19 PM   #157
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You voted for him because, apparently, "The cool kids were doing it" and now you're praying for him? It's atonement I guess, but it's kinda in bad taste

Note: Please stop reading my old posts as if they were the bible. Think for yourself.
That was in bad taste. I'm sorry.

And excuse me for me looking at your post and trying to get clues.
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Unread 01-12-2006, 07:21 PM   #158
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All right people. Enough kid stuff. I've analyzed the NEWB case extensively, which should give us a good start on weeding out mafia if everyone understands my thought process here;

Everyone who voted for NEWB is now a suspected Mafia member.

sasuto
Silly Kitty
Inbred Chocobo
Wandering God
Pyros
The Wizard Who Did It
Patrat
Major Blood
Mestizio
Psycho Mantis

Suspects
Psycho Mantis was accused by NEWB, who was susbsequently removed via lynching. IF PM was the only mafia accused (not just FoS'd, but accused), NEWB would be the target to rally a lynching around, making the Mafia's job easier. PM was the first well-voiced vote against NEWB. However, there was a slight rally against PM for a while, which would have been a far too dangerous move to make for the limited mafia population as a 'distraction' tactic. This potentially makes PM an innocent party.

Mestizio initially voted fot PM, and later for NEWB, possibly becuase of an unknown Mafia member's arguments and/or support. Changing her vote may be a mafia tactic, although it seems more reasonable to belive that she merely played unwittingly into the Mafia's hand. Seemed easily convinced by PM's arguments on the NEWB lynching, and grew impatient for the lynch at 7 votes, denoting nervousness.

Major Blood Also easily convinced by PM. Whom initially, he voted for. I see a suspicious pattern... Avatar also looks murderous and stabby.

Patrat's comments on Major Blood and his following NEWB accusation makes him appear to be attempting to mislead us.

The Wizard Who Did It also jumped on the NEWB bandwagon rather quickly, and erroneously... or so it appears.

Pyros originol vote for inbred changed to NEWB looks suspicious, but not overly. Impatience more than likely got to him, and he went with the popular vote. Still potentially a distaction tactic.

Wandering God only voted for NEWB once the votes started tipping over the 5+ number. Potential mafia, but unlikely. Similar to pyros case.
Inbred - ditto
Silly Kitty ditto
Sasuto - ditto

I belive the most likely mafia members (of the ones who voted) are, in order of scummy-ness;

Psycho Mantis
Major Blood
Mestizio
Patrat


I belive that almost every mafia member voted, becuase with only 5 members, they need to tip the scales with half the vote whenever possible, to get rid of as many vannilla townies as possible (they can kill TWICE as many people as we can, potentially... they already have two of ours.) These are the most likely suspects, IMO.

Everyone else has potential, but not as much as those four. And just to narrow it further...

Psycho Mantis had the most vote turnover, and wouldn't you know it - all of the votes that were going to him went to NEWB instead. I smell a scam meant to distract the non-pirates from the truth, which seems to be that NEWB was innocent, and psycho was one of the Mafia members who organized the the midnight murder. The strong support he recieved from Mestizio and Major blood for NEWB's lynching, after they 'supposedly' pointed the finger at him, makes him and them very suspect. Arguably, these three were the main leaders of NEWB's lynching, yes?

I think we have found three Mafia members. I can't belive I didn't see it earlier.

vote: PsychoMantis


As far a defense for myself in SSB Intern's murder, I can say only this; His vote against me was prompted by my vote against him, making it appear that he would not have been a target origonally... As I have illustrated, the Mafia's vote would have been the same all around for a single target since they need the votes. Only later in the game can they afford to distract us with differing vote chioces. The murder of SSB is intended to direct attention towards me as a potential Mafia member, which just isn't likely. I would have voted for NEWB if I were.
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Unread 01-12-2006, 07:23 PM   #159
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If I were mafia I would just be sitting here laughing as everyone points fingers and only post when absolutely nessesary to seal the fate of their lynching victims.
So, you'd act like Brian?
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Either your saying that its bad to accuse someone for being analytical, or you're saying my analytical style is bad and I should go play a different game. Not sure which...
Didn't really make that clear. I meant crossing Psycho(you) off for being analytical is a bad thing, because since you're analytical you can play the game deep enough to make everybody screw up, if you put enough thought into it.

*you is used in widespread sense.

Another note on the analytical thing. If you are a Mafia, you vould be analytical because you know who is who as far as the mafia goes. So... another reason is that you already know the answer, and that's why you're analytical.

EDIT: Well done, Nique.
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The Wizard Who Did It also jumped on the NEWB bandwagon rather quickly, and erroneously... or so it appears.
For the record, I wanted him dead so that we could start analyzing posts with an actual basis of evidence. I knew I wasn't smart enough to pull something together, but it seems that Nique did. I feel rather convinced enough to vote.

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Unread 01-12-2006, 07:29 PM   #160
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All right people. Enough kid stuff. I've analyzed the NEWB case extensively, which should give us a good start on weeding out mafia if everyone understands my thought process here;

Everyone who voted for NEWB is now a suspected Mafia member.

sasuto
Silly Kitty
Inbred Chocobo
Wandering God
Pyros
The Wizard Who Did It
Patrat
Major Blood
Mestizio
Psycho Mantis

Suspects
Psycho Mantis was accused by NEWB, who was susbsequently removed via lynching. IF PM was the only mafia accused (not just FoS'd, but accused), NEWB would be the target to rally a lynching around, making the Mafia's job easier. PM was the first well-voiced vote against NEWB. However, there was a slight rally against PM for a while, which would have been a far too dangerous move to make for the limited mafia population as a 'distraction' tactic. This potentially makes PM an innocent party.

Mestizio initially voted fot PM, and later for NEWB, possibly becuase of an unknown Mafia member's arguments and/or support. Changing her vote may be a mafia tactic, although it seems more reasonable to belive that she merely played unwittingly into the Mafia's hand. Seemed easily convinced by PM's arguments on the NEWB lynching, and grew impatient for the lynch at 7 votes, denoting nervousness.

Major Blood Also easily convinced by PM. Whom initially, he voted for. I see a suspicious pattern... Avatar also looks murderous and stabby.

Patrat's comments on Major Blood and his following NEWB accusation makes him appear to be attempting to mislead us.

The Wizard Who Did It also jumped on the NEWB bandwagon rather quickly, and erroneously... or so it appears.

Pyros originol vote for inbred changed to NEWB looks suspicious, but not overly. Impatience more than likely got to him, and he went with the popular vote. Still potentially a distaction tactic.

Wandering God only voted for NEWB once the votes started tipping over the 5+ number. Potential mafia, but unlikely. Similar to pyros case.
Inbred - ditto
Silly Kitty ditto
Sasuto - ditto

I belive the most likely mafia members (of the ones who voted) are, in order of scummy-ness;

Psycho Mantis
Major Blood
Mestizio
Patrat


I belive that almost every mafia member voted, becuase with only 5 members, they need to tip the scales with half the vote whenever possible, to get rid of as many vannilla townies as possible (they can kill TWICE as many people as we can, potentially... they already have two of ours.) These are the most likely suspects, IMO.

Everyone else has potential, but not as much as those four. And just to narrow it further...

Psycho Mantis had the most vote turnover, and wouldn't you know it - all of the votes that were going to him went to NEWB instead. I smell a scam meant to distract the non-pirates from the truth, which seems to be that NEWB was innocent, and psycho was one of the Mafia members who organized the the midnight murder. The strong support he recieved from Mestizio and Major blood for NEWB's lynching, after they 'supposedly' pointed the finger at him, makes him and them very suspect. Arguably, these three were the main leaders of NEWB's lynching, yes?

I think we have found three Mafia members. I can't belive I didn't see it earlier.

vote: PsychoMantis


As far a defense for myself in SSB Intern's murder, I can say only this; His vote against me was prompted by my vote against him, making it appear that he would not have been a target origonally... As I have illustrated, the Mafia's vote would have been the same all around for a single target sense they need the votes. Only later in the game can they afford to distract us with differing vote chioces. The murder of SSB is intended to direct attention towards me as a potential Mafia member, which just isn't likely. I would have voted for NEWB if I were.
Wow, you looked pretty deep into this. I would say good job, but I'm on the list and I think I'm one of the three you were talking about.
And as far as the Newb thing goes, you can't deny PM made the best points and was very convincing. Just because I agreed doesn't make me a mafiate .
And you can't throw away everyone who hopped on the bandwagon for sheer impatience. That eliminates a third of the people. And in that third chances are there is at least one mafiate.
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