NPF Mafia: 8-Bit Edition

[Deathosaurus Wrecks]

Explain why you think Raiden is guilty. nothing that anyone has said has convinced me that Raiden is mafia. granted this is a game of guesses and hunches, but i don't follow the logic in what was posted. to me, you people seem to be reaching for things that arn't there.

in fact, it seems to me that Major Blood, Wandering God and Spoony Bard seem to be working very hard at fabricating evidence against Raiden. but i only have one FoS, so i'm keeping it pointed at Wandering God.

edit:
yes, i admit that my previous accusation (against PM) was a bit misinformed. however, now that i'm caught up on thing i have a better idea of what (i think) is going on.

[The Wandering God]

I detailed exactly why I think Raiden is guilty in my long post summarizing Mestizo's post history. She defended him way to many times. Not only that, but they never once even came close to voting for each other. Raiden also has made several odd choices.

Then, he gave a list of names for the officer to inspect. None of whom I suspect. And anyone who suggests names to inspect makes me suspcious. If the police officer is busy checking red herrings, he'll miss out on the real mafia.

Raiden also accused SK. And Silly Kitty was instrumental in lynching Mestizo. Meaning that Silly Kitty is most probably (to me) innocent. A mafia member needs no reason to accuse an innocent person.

In general, though, Raiden has switched around a lot. That, on top of everything else, makes him highly suspect.

The Wandering God

EDIT: Okay, this just is plain odd.

Originally Posted by Deathosaurus Wrecks

well, as i am certain of Raiden's innocence, .

Originally Posted by Deathosaurus Wrecks

granted this is a game of guesses and hunches.

Explain yourself.

[Kikuichimonji]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

EDIT: Okay, this just is plain odd.

Explain yourself.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

No, we need to focus on Psycho Mantis. Please don't name someone else until you can give a reason why we shouldn't worry about Psycho.

Let me give you the same request. Either focus on Raiden, who will be hung according to the current situation (either rightfully or wrongfully), or show why this is so important that you'd break your own advice. Of course, I'm not saying you shouldn't defend yourself.

EDIT: I am going to Vote: Raiden, basically because of the way he jumped on Psycho's RPing, the way he suggested the PO use his investigation, and the way he seemed perhaps too paranoid about being killed.

EDIT2: Raiden's emphasis on the randomness of the game (which Mestizio also emphasized) is also scummy.

[Deathosaurus Wrecks]

one can not be certain of a hunch? i would also like to point out that a couple of people seemed intent on lynching Silly Kitty at one point, so i fail to see why you'd single Raiden out.

[The Wandering God]

That was earlier. Switching votes or changing your mind isn't inherently suspicous. (I'm only bolding this after 3 times of people saying I think switching votes is suspcious.) It does add up though. A bunch of things that you can get away with saying, "Yeah, but that doesn't really mean anything", means a lot when you start to put 2 and 2 together.

And what I meant was more the shift in logic. He went from saying he knew, to saying that noone can no anything. That doesn't strike you as odd at all?

The Wandering God

EDIT for above post: I actually made that statement about Psycho before Mestizo was uncovered. New evidence was brought to light by this. I made an indepth examination and I made my decisions based on facts of who posted what. Not a gut feeling like you Deathosarus.

EDIT for post below (Raiden): I never said you voted for her. But you did accuse her. In fact, I think you were the first to accuse her. Just like with Psycho Mantis.

And trying to guess what other people due only led to Mestizo getting lynched. I wouldn't say the mafia is as smart as they'd like to think.

And I'd request that I be lynched next if you prove innocent. Then, when my words are proved to be the words of an innocent, Major Blood and Deathosaurs will be next. I'm fine with that.

EDIT again: And if you think I'm guilty Raiden and should be lynched, why not switch your vote to me?

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

I detailed exactly why I think Raiden is guilty in my long post summarizing Mestizo's post history. She defended him way to many times. Not only that, but they never once even came close to voting for each other. Raiden also has made several odd choices.

Then, he gave a list of names for the officer to inspect. None of whom I suspect. And anyone who suggests names to inspect makes me suspcious. If the police officer is busy checking red herrings, he'll miss out on the real mafia.

Raiden also accused SK. And Silly Kitty was instrumental in lynching Mestizo. Meaning that Silly Kitty is most probably (to me) innocent. A mafia member needs no reason to accuse an innocent person.

In general, though, Raiden has switched around a lot. That, on top of everything else, makes him highly suspect.

The Wandering God

EDIT: Okay, this just is plain odd.


Explain yourself.

Yet again, I'll have to say it, since you obviously haven't heard it the other times I've said it. I never voted for SK. I voted for Patrat that time. I said that SK was suspicious. She voted for me with no evidence. Yes, I found that suspicious.

Also, Inbred, it's not that I don't let Patrat breaking the rules go. If you look at the other posts, I never bring it up unless he brings it up. The only time I mentioned it was when I was defending myself from him bringing it up. Before you critique something I said in my posts, look at what others said that instigated it.

Also WanderingGod, as you yourself said, you're basing your accusation on the fact that I switch my ideas on who is what and that the Don defended me. Maybe she did it with the full intention that people like you would use it as a reason to get rid of me.

Also, if you're going to accuse people that changed their minds when they got a better idea of what someone might be, then you better accuse every single person in this entire game. Everyone in this game other than a few people have changed their minds after hearing a better argument. What you're saying, though, is because I've decided that my vote for someone wasn't the best vote is a reason to think I'm trying to kill people?

Plus, if/when I get lynched and it turns out I'm innocent, guess who they're hopefully going to go after next?

[Kikuichimonji]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

That was earlier. Switching votes or changing your mind isn't inherently suspicous. (I'm only bolding this after 3 times of people saying I think switching votes is suspcious.) It does add up though. A bunch of things that you can get away with saying, "Yeah, but that doesn't really mean anything", means a lot when you start to put 2 and 2 together.

I know that. I never meant that I thought changing your mind/vote is suspicious by itself. Rather, I was trying to say that perhaps, now that blame has been cast on Deathosaurus, and thus a good thing to pick up next round, shouldn't we stay focused on Raiden? I don't want to lynch a townie ally because we were too busy accusing someone else.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And what I meant was more the shift in logic. He went from saying he knew, to saying that noone can no anything. That doesn't strike you as odd at all?

It's definitely odd, and FoS worthy. But shouldn't we talk about this next round moreso, especially since there's still some debate about Raiden?

Oh, and Raiden, you sealed the deal for my vote when you tried to get TWG to not vote for you out of fear for his own skin.

Edit:

Originally Posted by Raiden

Plus, if/when I get lynched and it turns out I'm innocent, guess who they're hopefully going to go after next?

[Raiden]

Wait, when did I say that I knew anything? If I said that I knew, please quote it because I don't see it anywhere.

[The Wandering God]

No, I was speaking of Deathosaurus. (Concerning the shift in logic.)

And if you feel that he is guilty, why don't you vote Kiku? Just asking...

The Wandering God

EDIT: I was just defending myself against Deathosaurus, Kiku. And I got suspicious and investigated when the reason he accused me was so flimsy. I don't actually plan on changing my vote at all.

[Bailey]

Originally Posted by Kikuichimonji

Oh, and Raiden, you sealed the deal for my vote when you tried to get TWG to not vote for you out of fear for his own skin.[/color]

y'know, I said something similar to what he said before being lynched.

Just stating a fact which already exists in this thread...