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Unread 01-31-2006, 10:39 PM   #141
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Actually, you can't die from three days starvation. It takes around four weeks for starvation to kill the average human being. You're thinking water. Going without water for three days kills you. :p
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Unread 01-31-2006, 10:55 PM   #142
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Unread 01-31-2006, 11:30 PM   #143
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Actually, you can't die from three days starvation. It takes around four weeks for starvation to kill the average human being. You're thinking water. Going without water for three days kills you. :p
Actually, I think the point he's making is that he's diabetic and without enough glucose (obtained from eating) he will go into shock and die.

Anyways, since when does having Blue Magic make you all powerful? Anytime I've played a FF game with a Blue Mage in it, they typically end up relying more on their Black and White Magic abilities overall. Blue Magic is more or less just a collection of neat spells that can be of some use but will never be your main weapon, and it takes forever to learn spells because you have to wait for an enemy to cast it on that specific character. I honestly see him having nothing more than "Revenge" or "Pep Up" for the rest of his days.

Now, going on the theory that, in 8BT, Blue Magic allows you to learn any spells that are cast on you, then it might give him amazing new powers, but think about it: he already knows the most powerful destructive spells known to man. Aside from Ultima, what more is there for him to learn? And as for the immunity to spells, this is all according to legend and hasn't been proven. My guess is that he'll get the class change, THINK he's immune to all magic, and then get blasted to within an inch of his life the second he tries to learn something, gets knocked out, and then fails to learn a new spell every single time.

Or not. Whatever. I'm going back to my hole.
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Unread 02-01-2006, 12:01 AM   #144
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Unread 02-01-2006, 12:02 AM   #145
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Now, going on the theory that, in 8BT, Blue Magic allows you to learn any spells that are cast on you, then it might give him amazing new powers, but think about it: he already knows the most powerful destructive spells known to man. Aside from Ultima, what more is there for him to learn? And as for the immunity to spells, this is all according to legend and hasn't been proven. My guess is that he'll get the class change, THINK he's immune to all magic, and then get blasted to within an inch of his life the second he tries to learn something, gets knocked out, and then fails to learn a new spell every single time.
Don't think so. Magus is a dark god, working to unbind the fabric of reality by loosening a nexus. Whatever he does, he does to further his goal of ultimate destruction.
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Unread 02-01-2006, 12:27 AM   #146
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Don't think so. Magus is a dark god, working to unbind the fabric of reality by loosening a nexus. Whatever he does, he does to further his goal of ultimate destruction.
Yes, but as the mantra goes, "all the world exists to hurt BM". Magus, dark god that he is, is still only one factor in a greater universe. He may attempt to give BM something resembling greater power to further his own goals, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it will be something that BM would consider to be better. Think about it, there's a theory involved in blue magic, but all attempts to use it have failed. Therefore, it probably won't work the way anyone would think that it should.

That, or he'll be given a class that is similar to, but ultimately unlike, blue magic. Maybe a pictomancer.

(Please please PLEASE get that I was trying to be funny with that last one or you'll make a puppy cry.)
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Unread 02-01-2006, 01:00 AM   #147
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Actually, you can't die from three days starvation. It takes around four weeks for starvation to kill the average human being. You're thinking water. Going without water for three days kills you. :p
Oh, you want to get technical? Yes, I can die of dehydration as well, which can take as little as a day and a half if osmosis starts going the wrong way in my bloodstream due to insulin building up. This depletes my sodium, dries up my inner ear, causes me to piss lots of albumin/protein stuff-thingies, pass kidney stones, lose circulation in my appendages, and die, in that order.

I'm type II diabetic; I'm not dependent on insulin. In fact, my pancreas works; it's the insulin that doesn't. I am... resistant to my own insulin. It does not move sugar across my cell membranes like it should; instead it congregates in the bloodstream; my cells don't get any sugar; and my pancreas dumps more insulin to compensate which causes my sugar to fall like a rock. It takes much more insulin than normal for me to move my glucose. Thus, I need to eat frequently to bind up all that insulin to glucose, and eventually things start working again.

It will take about three days for me to fall below the 30 mg/dl glucose limit, at which point I will... er...let's stop that here.

In an emergency, intravenous dextrose works well, as it can pass through the cell membrane without the assistance of insulin. It burns my veins though. :gonk:

This is entirely genetic; I weigh only 135 pounds. I R NOT FAT!

BACK ONTO TEH TOPIC BEFORE I GO TO BED!!!

Could the #666 theory be proven false? Twenty-three hours to go and the world will know... the world will know.

And either BM will become something neat, or the fanboys ATTACK! And I starve myself into a coma. (HA!)
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Unread 02-01-2006, 01:06 AM   #148
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Actually, I think the point he's making is that he's diabetic and without enough glucose (obtained from eating) he will go into shock and die.

Anyways, since when does having Blue Magic make you all powerful? Anytime I've played a FF game with a Blue Mage in it, they typically end up relying more on their Black and White Magic abilities overall.
Any time I've played an FF game thieves are barely able to steal a potion from a damn imp, let alone steal superpowers from the future.

They have certainly never evinced a capacity for altering their abilities by rewriting their own character stats mid-battle.

And I know for damn sure I've never seen a Final Fantasy character whipping around any God damn Swordchucks.

[/QUOTE]Now, going on the theory that, in 8BT, Blue Magic allows you to learn any spells that are cast on you, then it might give him amazing new powers, but think about it: he already knows the most powerful destructive spells known to man. Aside from Ultima, what more is there for him to learn? [/QUOTE]

Well as the comic puts it, the essence of Blue Magic is to incorporate the power of a spell into your very being, and to wield its forces at whim. As it is now he has the Hadoken, once a day, after he charges it up, at which point his chances of controlling the damn thing well enough to hit anyone look like about one in ten. From how Blue Magic is described, he'd be able to flick the goddamn things off like a snotty eight-year-old launching a spitwad. And that's just for starters.

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By all means, prove me wrong, but right now I can't remember the last time Black Mage got hit by a spell.
Just by way of example, that time that Sarda held everything in the universe except Black Mage still for a fraction of a second, shredding him to pieces on the razor's edge of raw reality, forcing him through an eternity's ordeal in an eyeblink and then making him live through it all, forever to bear scars of horror which no being should ever have to know.

Black & Blue Mage would just shrug and be like cute trick, bet I can do it better.

I mean unless Sarda's magic is supposed to be set on some level beyond even BM's grasp, I should think Black Mage would just go back to Sarda's cave and yank his beard really fuckin' hard, once.

Then be like 'So do something about it, ya shitty old man!'
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Unread 02-01-2006, 02:18 AM   #149
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Just by way of example, that time that Sarda held everything in the universe except Black Mage still for a fraction of a second, shredding him to pieces on the razor's edge of raw reality, forcing him through an eternity's ordeal in an eyeblink and then making him live through it all, forever to bear scars of horror which no being should ever have to know.

Black & Blue Mage would just shrug and be like cute trick, bet I can do it better.

I mean unless Sarda's magic is supposed to be set on some level beyond even BM's grasp, I should think Black Mage would just go back to Sarda's cave and yank his beard really fuckin' hard, once.

Then be like 'So do something about it, ya shitty old man!'
I'd have to say that wasn't magic. It was simply Sarda manipulating reality. As oppossed to manipulating magic to control reality. Sarda willed it to happen. He didn't cast a spell on BM.

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Unread 02-01-2006, 02:32 AM   #150
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Any time I've played an FF game thieves are barely able to steal a potion from a damn imp, let alone steal superpowers from the future.

They have certainly never evinced a capacity for altering their abilities by rewriting their own character stats mid-battle.

And I know for damn sure I've never seen a Final Fantasy character whipping around any God damn Swordchucks.
You didn't? Dude, that was the whole point off FF3j! Sheesh, what a noob.

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Well as the comic puts it, the essence of Blue Magic is to incorporate the power of a spell into your very being, and to wield its forces at whim. As it is now he has the Hadoken, once a day, after he charges it up, at which point his chances of controlling the damn thing well enough to hit anyone look like about one in ten. From how Blue Magic is described, he'd be able to flick the goddamn things off like a snotty eight-year-old launching a spitwad. And that's just for starters.
So far, only the theory behind Blue Magic has been given, a theory which, so far, has led to nothing but failure to all those who have attempted to use it. Also, I don't recall the description saying anything about winging around Hadokens like theres no tomorrow. What Magus may end up giving BM is the TRUE embodiment of Blue Magic, which is very likely to be completely different from what everyone in the comic's universe thinks it's supposed to be, and doing so in a way that ultimately screws BM, or he could even inadvertantly screw himself for a long time coming because he doesn't quite realize the depths of the newfound powers that have been granted to him. Just because he could become amazingly powerful because of his class change doesn't mean he'll realize how to use them properly.

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Just by way of example, that time that Sarda held everything in the universe except Black Mage still for a fraction of a second, shredding him to pieces on the razor's edge of raw reality, forcing him through an eternity's ordeal in an eyeblink and then making him live through it all, forever to bear scars of horror which no being should ever have to know.

Black & Blue Mage would just shrug and be like cute trick, bet I can do it better.

I mean unless Sarda's magic is supposed to be set on some level beyond even BM's grasp, I should think Black Mage would just go back to Sarda's cave and yank his beard really fuckin' hard, once.

Then be like 'So do something about it, ya shitty old man!'
Boy, that sure does sound cool. But, given Brian's narrative style, is it likely?
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