Soldiers of Light: Mafia

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by CallmePrismatic

You on the other hand are very on the offensive (as opposed to SK and Rhiya who merely explained and defended), so I'm gunna give you an FOS, which will cacoon into a vote if you can't explain your overzealousness.

I'm not convinced of his innocence. I probably jumped the gun when It came to voting for him, though. I'll Unvote: The_Wandering_God but place a very heavy FoS: The_Wandering_God that can turn back into a vote any minute.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Not in any bandwagoning sense (I hope), I'm going to Withdraw FoS: Arhra and level it atFoS: Fenriswolf.

Firstly, this is because you accused TWG and voted for him WHEN HE IS CLEARLY NOT A MAFIATE. To me, your actions are highly suspicious, whether you have the right to do so or not.

Secondly, it is too early yet to determine who's an imposter or CL - like people so nicely explained to me. Also, like me (shameshameshame), don't go jumping to conclusions immediately. Look what happened the first day!

As of such, I'm going to wobble my vote towards you around about Aust-time tomorrow afternoon unless you provide a valid reason behind your statements. The previous ones you supplied are very shaky in my view.

EDIT - wow... I spend like... 5 minutes typing this and about 4 people already posted.... eh well... off to MTG

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Rhiya Ravenwing

As of such, I'm going to wobble my vote towards you around about Aust-time tomorrow afternoon unless you provide a valid reason behind your statements. The previous ones you supplied are very shaky in my view.

Shaky or not, those are the reasons.

[The Wandering God]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

I'm speaking from experience.

Oh, I'm sorry. I only played one game. I guess your saying we should only listen to the people that play the most? Who sounds "awfully high 'n mighty" now? I don't tell people what to do. I make suggestions. I didn't tell the BG to protect me. I convinced them of my innocence once. And ya know what? He choose correctly.

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Are you saying it's okay to kill innocents? Because that's what it sounds like to me.

No. Stop putting words into my mouth. First off, I said that " As long as their death helps the town more than it hurts, then it was worth it . It's always a tragedy. But to have one die a meaningless death? Far worse.

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Was I online then? No.

And how was I supposed to know that? You posted before and after that.

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

What's this? A blind accusation!

Or I could be paranoid. Ya know, what with the knowledge of the mafia, imposter, and vig all out to slit my throat to silence me. But the thing about paranoia is... it's not always wrong either. Seriously, think about what happens when you start to suspect someone who came as close to biting it as I did. From a strictly psychological sense, that's dangerous. Yet you are intent on pursuing this anway. And how is it blind when you've already voted for me?

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Awfully high 'n mighty. Lesee here, bodyguard going blind, and you pissing off the mafia and the Impostor. Sounds to me like you're only good at pissing people off.

Bodyguard going blind? Hardly. As much as you'd like to try and make it otherwise, not everyone here thinks I'm guilty or suspicous.

And since that leaves the CL, I guess I'd better maintain a low profile... Oh wait. I'm not. I'm the most vocal person here. THAT'S why I drew so much attention. And that is exactly why the chances of me being the CL are much slimmer than anyone else. Seriously. Noone yet has argued with my "common sense" defense. Why? Because they know it's true. It's much easier to skirt around the issue isn't it?

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

I'm surrounded by Mafiates and an impostor! OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo. I hope you realize just how absurd that claim is.

It looks like someone doesn't have a care in the world. Wonder why that is? And how was it a claim? It's the TRUTH .

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Exactly.

What the hell? Seriously? "Exactly" what?

The Wandering God

[P-Sleazy]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Yes, like the PO or the Vig, which you clearly are not either. And you are not known to be a mafiate. For all we know, the Mafia ordered a hit on a member.

Maybe you pissed off your don.

Maybe you're a cultist. You seem waaaaay too focused on SK to be keeping your options open, which is much more useful than focusing on one person, unless you are 100% sure of their guilt.

And I, based on past events, believe you're guilty.

Vote: The_Wandering_God

And you Fenris have just been added to my list of Mafiates. That makes the current list at

1. Catlover
2. Major Blood
3. Fenris Wolf

This is due to your voting for an already proved innocent monk who is of no threat to the town. This sounds very much like a mafiate trying to run a lynch bandwagon on a known innocent...very badly I might add.

Seriously, How much more proof do you need that TWG is not a threat to the town as of yet? I know he might be the CL or he could even be the PO. You ever think of that? As the PO he could be voicing his oppinions outload BECAUSE he found out one of the Mafiates, possibly two now.

Originally Posted by Fenris

I'm surrounded by Mafiates and an impostor! OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo.

And this seems almost as if you're in league with the mafiates. Sorry Fenris but due to you being unable to explain yourself in an unincriminating fashion Im going to have to
UNVOTE: CATLOVER
VOTE: FENRIS

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Oh, I'm sorry. I only played one game. I guess your saying we should only listen to the people that play the most? Who sounds "awfully high 'n mighty" now? I don't tell people what to do. I make suggestions. I didn't tell the BG to protect me. I convinced them of my innocence once. And ya know what? He choose correctly.

I only played one game as well, I also was killed for seeming too helpful. That's the experience I was talking about.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

No. Stop putting words into my mouth. First off, I said that " As long as their death helps the town more than it hurts, then it was worth it . It's always a tragedy. But to have one die a meaningless death? Far worse.

I said "That's how it sounds to me". Me. Not you. As CmP said, watch your phrasing.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And how was I supposed to know that? You posted before and after that.

And did you consider that possibility?

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Or I could be paranoid. Ya know, what with the knowledge of the mafia, imposter, and vig all out to slit my throat to silence me. But the thing about paranoia is... it's not always wrong either. Seriously, think about what happens when you start to suspect someone who came as close to biting it as I did. From a strictly psychological sense, that's dangerous. Yet you are intent on pursuing this anway. And how is it blind when you've already voted for me?

You're accusing me of being a mafiate, vig, or impostor. What if I'm not any of those? What if I'm the VIG?

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Bodyguard going blind? Hardly. As much as you'd like to try and make it otherwise, not everyone here thinks I'm guilty or suspicous.

It was far too early to tell for sure your innocence. S/he went on a hunch, and that happened to be the right hunch.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And since that leaves the CL, I guess I'd better maintain a low profile... Oh wait. I'm not. I'm the most vocal person here. THAT'S why I drew so much attention. And that is exactly why the chances of me being the CL are much slimmer than anyone else. Seriously. Noone yet has argued with my "common sense" defense. Why? Because they know it's true. It's much easier to skirt around the issue isn't it?

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

Some people have hidden in day light before.

Do you read?

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

It looks like someone doesn't have a care in the world. Wonder why that is? And how was it a claim? It's the TRUTH .

As you said (with me bolding the relevant part),

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And because you think I'm a threat, you're willing to kill the one person who isn't a mafiate or the imposter.

The one person, eh? So, the vast majority of people who are townies are mafiates too?

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

What the hell? Seriously? "Exactly" what?

I'm sayin' that you have to take into account how people will react. If you're not sure, don't vote, or at least unvote if there's a glimmer of innocence.

That good enough for you?

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

This is due to your voting for an already proved innocent monk who is of no threat to the town. This sounds very much like a mafiate trying to run a lynch bandwagon on a known innocent...very badly I might add.

How many times do I have to refute this? He is not known. Just because he pissed off a couple killing roles does not mean he's innocent.

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

Seriously, How much more proof do you need that TWG is not a threat to the town as of yet? I know he might be the CL or he could even be the PO. You ever think of that? As the PO he could be voicing his oppinions outload BECAUSE he found out one of the Mafiates, possibly two now.

He isn't the PO. PO's are smarter than this. If he found the mafiates, he would plainly say so, and lay low.

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

And this seems almost as if you're in league with the mafiates.

I was being sarcastic.

[P-Sleazy]

Except we know from Mesden's post of the three attempts of TWG's life that the Vigilante is a girl. We do not know if the Imposter is a girl or not however.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

Except we know from Mesden's post of the three attempts of TWG's life that the Vigilante is a girl. We do not know if the Imposter is a girl or not however.

No, we know the ROLE is a girl. For example, Intern_Nin was Evil Princess Sara, and last I checked, Intern_Nin was male.

[Major Blood]

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

And you Fenris have just been added to my list of Mafiates. That makes the current list at

1. Catlover
2. Major Blood
3. Fenris Wolf

I understand why i would be on your list, i'll even admit that yes, i was following the bandwagon on the IHMN thing. But for good reason! If we all hadn't voted for him we would of kept on arguing for a week, slowing the game down, finally landing on a lynching that probably would have been a townie anyways. Sometimes, bandwagons really aren't that bad a thing.

[Bailey]

Unvote:Arhra
Vote: Fenris

I would explain my reasonings, but I don't think that that's really necessary, as anybody here can see why Fenris looks really suspicious, even if they themselves don't find him suspicious.

Suffice it to say that he just passed Arhra on my spreadsheet.

And there's another point. If I explain what affects my spreadsheet and how, people could quite easily just avoid invoking statistical wrath.