Mafia: Basic

[P-Sleazy]

But thats the thing, you are such a strong player. If you hadn't been in the mafia, the mafia would have taken you out on the first night from fear of you being too much help to town knowing all the ins and outs of the mafia. But they havent. The SK and Vig didn't go after maybe because of the hope you were a townie, and hoped to have you help them target the mafiates later on in the game, and just counting on the odds of you being 1 of the 20(or 19 in the Vig and SK's case) who are not mafia aligned.

and good job on catching onto the "If you were mafia?" part. I am not completely convinced of your being a mafiate. But as of now, you're the best candidate to receive my vote. Second is Catlover.

[catlover20410]

Originally Posted by Mesden

Right now, I believe CmP, TWG and Ogianres to be agreeing with me and Catlover to be agreeing with you. Now, this could be all 4 of us working as mafia, but is that worth the risk? Or, this could be only two(You and Cat) working to bring down a strong player? But, are you so rash as to do it in the manner at hand?

Hello thar miscount.

[Sithdarth]

Just like to say I don't think Mesden overreacted at all, however she expressed a desire not to be defended.

As for this:

But thats the thing, you are such a strong player. If you hadn't been in the mafia, the mafia would have taken you out on the first night from fear of you being too much help to town knowing all the ins and outs of the mafia. But they havent. The SK and Vig didn't go after maybe because of the hope you were a townie, and hoped to have you help them target the mafiates later on in the game, and just counting on the odds of you being 1 of the 20(or 19 in the Vig and SK's case) who are not mafia aligned.

No see your logic there is a little off to my estimation. If the Mafia wanted to hit the strongest player solely to get them out of the way they would have hit CmP. He clearly has the most expierence in Mafia. Also, no offense to Mesden, but her strength lies more with the evil side of the game. She seems to have a knack for sneaky underhanded manipulation. (Again no offense.) These are things that'll get you lynched as a townie, if only because your going it solo.

Now Mesden's considerable exprience with the Mafia could benefit us, so that's a plus. However, if knowing this the Mafia takes a very unusual or unorthodox approach that advantage is gone. In short Mesden isn't all that big of an asset to the town, rather she hasn't proven herself as that much of an asset just yet.

Now on the off chance she is a mafiate this seems a tad bit like a strategy she used before. By having a lot of semi-random cross voting between Mafiates to throw the town off. Normally you wouldn't think repeating a strategy would be good but in a game of finger pointing and paranoia it works. If I had to guess who would be the Mafiates in this plan I'd say they are Mesden and B_real. Being the strong player she is Mesden would know there would have to be strongish believable reasons for voting as purely random votes bring the town down on you. Catlover hasn't quite given good enough reasons as of yet to make me think he is in a complicated plot.

All that said I'm keeping an eye out but the person I'll probably be watching most of the three is B_real followed by Mesden and Catlover.

Edited to say:
Um CmP, TWG and Ogianres plus Mesden makes four. I fail to see any miscount aside from your own.

[Mesden]

Miscount? CmP, TWG, Ogianres and I. That's 4. Sorry, but I know how to count. If we were mafia, there would only be 4 of us working together.

And B_Real, TWG and IC are the other choices, both of them VERY good. IC's activity as the Vig was stupendous as well as TWG's playing in general.

Now, I know I'm a strong player, but maybe that's the reason they didn't pick me. Maybe they thought the Doctor would SURELY help me. Guess not, eh?

Now, I think that settles that thus far.

EDIT: wow, Sith's right, actually... I haven't done shit for the town...Ever...

[secretskull]

Sith is also right in another way. I'm finding B-real the most suspicious person so far. In fact, I would probably vote for B-real right now if it wasn't getting late, and I want to see his reaction before I make a make an unchangeable vote.

[CallmePrismatic]

Originally Posted by Mesden HERSELF FOR GOD'S SAKE

EDIT: wow, Sith's right, actually... I haven't done shit for the town...Ever...

That's why it should have been a funny rib-poking jib to be giggled off, not the monstrosity it grew into.

Anyways, my game prowess hasn't really been shown too often because I don't think I've seen a Day 3*.

Right now I think I'm agreeing more with secretskull on the b_real v. catlover issue. B_real seems truly gungho on Mesden's death for some reason, while catlover looks like a newbie who's trying to emulate past games (both the 'miscount' and 'I lika da randa-vote' are two recent mafia occurences). Also, I don't like the "Well, since you weren't killed you must be mafia"-implication. I'm not ruling out reverse^mind-dizzying psychology, but that screams of a mafiate who actually planned for that option and is frustrated nobody's picked up on it.

*And whose fault is that I wonder? Do you people not realize that I'm the only reason mafia is around? Get it together people, you always need to let me live.

[P-Sleazy]

Originally Posted by CmP

*And whose fault is that I wonder? Do you people not realize that I'm the only reason mafia is around? Get it together people, you always need to let me live.

you have no idea how much I want to vote for you for just that little comment. Letting you live? Thats basically giving you the game if you're a mafiate!

to Secret Skull, Aren't you already voting for someone? CrazyBen was it? Votes are always changing, unless you're saying that your current vote can't be changed either and that you will wait for tommorow before you vote for me.

[Sithdarth]

I assume he meant late as in he had to go somewhere and or sleep. Thus he didn't want to vote for you without being around to see how it turned out. There is also the possibilty his vote could potentially make the majority if something drastic happened while he was a way. So he didn't want to change his vote till he was more sure of you.

Note to self: Never use humour in a Mafia game it always backfires.

[Fenris]

B_real, I'm pretty sure he's joking.

I still don't know who to vote for, but I'm leaning towards catlover. He's been kinda flaky and despite his claim about trying to question people, I don't buy it. Also, accusing somebody of a miscount that didn't exist is kinda suspicious to me as well.

Catlover, explain yourself. Better.

[Silly Kitty]

Okay, I have just skimmed through this thing so far. Maple Story is taking up too much of my life, sorry.

Mes, I noticed you got on to B_Real about his voting early but did you get on to anyone else like you did him? If you have, I am sorry. I promise to read this whole thing tonight.