Mafia: Bleach

[Ryanderman]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

EDIT: I did not find you ignorant! I just thought I'd point that out. Everybody is ignorant of everything but their and their team-mates (if it so applies) roles!

Hey, I'm not insulted by being called ignorant. I can and do easily make dumb mistakes in this game and having them pointed out is a good thing. I'm a typical newb at this, and I understand that.

[Cephrir]

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that by talking about random things that don't matter, at least one of you three is trying to protect Newb and get everyone's mind off him. By making everyone think about how everyone is manipulating everyone else, which is just what happens in mafia, but more importantly, isn't our only potential lead, is scummy. I can't say that all of you are mafiates, and I have one of the three that I don't really suspect. Since I can't be sure about the other two, I'll
Vote: Newb.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Cephrir

By making everyone think about how everyone is manipulating everyone else, which is just what happens in mafia, but more importantly, isn't our only potential lead, is scummy.

Why, hello thar potshot.

No, trying to take away from the fact that everybody is manipulating everybody else is scummy. Let's look at it your way. Remember, your way is to not think about how everybody is manipulating everybody else. Now go vote for yourself. It's the only way for the town to win.

Wait, you don't want to do that, right? That's because that was blatant manipulation on my part used only as an example and should not be used to crucify me.

Do ya see where I'm headed with this?

[h4x.m4g3]

Originally Posted by Newb

The 3 thing?

There's 5 mafiates.

If three of them are on that list, they have majority within the mafia.

So you believe that the majority of the mafia is on the list as opposed to one guy who can make his Don agree with him, or the don himself? Last time, I checked it was the Don who sent in who to kill (and had the final call).

As for why seven, and the following speculation?

Well, it really did turn out to be seven, and I was amused by that, so I decided to make a joke about it. And in chat KP seems like the sort of crazy bastard who would want to kill everybody, so I just slotted him there. The part with the seven was a joke, don't look too much into it.

In the game of cloak and dagger everything must be observed, diagnosed, and valued. I prefer to do this for myself. And I dislike "It was just a joke" defences, because they usually turn out to be subtle attempts of manipulation.

And Mesden was right.

I can't really know know, however, with my track record, I'm pretty damn sure of myself.

But, bringing it up at all was probably a mistake, because, as she pointed out, saying anything is very nearly saying everything in this situation.

It was indeed a mistake, a slip, as I said. But to me it seems similar to IC's gut (I believe, if I have my stories straight he was PO once and used it to reveal investigative results), a guise for revealing things you know, without revealing how you learned them. However ploy's like this work best when they've become in-bedded with people's perception of the player.

Oh and Mr. Bookworm, 14 is the only prime, non-odd (Even) number on the list. Which is why I said most.

[Truce]

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

Vote Count

fauckneruap (8)
Ecurt
Inbred Chocobo
Nikose
Major_Blood
Roy
hax mage
Mr.G
IHMN

Roy_D_Mylote(1)
Arhra

Mesden(2)
Ecurt
Garud

I am pointing this out because my power has exceeded IC's! I have two votes, without splitting it into fractions!

Seriously though, Unvote: fauckneruap in case I forgot to unvote him in the first place.

[Cephrir]

My point was that we have a lead, and that conversation was pointless, causing nobody to act on it. Let's sum up that conversation:
A) People are manipulative in mafia.
B) Nothing.
Fenris, someone brought up a lead! And by pointing fingers (at me), you detract attention from it.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Cephrir

My point was that we have a lead, and that conversation was pointless, causing nobody to act on it. Let's sum up that conversation:
A) People are manipulative in mafia.
B) Nothing.
Fenris, someone brought up a lead! And by pointing fingers (at me), you detract attention from it.

Oh? Someone brought up a lead.

Good for them.

That someone could be a mafiate. In which case we likely could end up lynching our own. Don't be so trusting, seriously. A trusting townie is one of the best weapons the mafia can use.

[Cephrir]

Agreeing is not the same as trusting. And a second ago, you were calling me scummy, but now I'm a townie? Not that I'm complaining, but by giving friendly advice, you are trying to seem like the nice, helper guy. You're not. Why are you on Newb's side? I don't see any reactions by you, be it agreeing or pointing out flaws, to hax's accusations, although you are clearly active. Why don't you think Newb is scum? Or are you just too busy pointing fingers at me to bother thinking about it?

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Cephrir

Agreeing is not the same as trusting. And a second ago, you were calling me scummy, but now I'm a townie? Not that I'm complaining, but by giving friendly advice, you are trying to seem like the nice, helper guy. You're not. Why are you on Newb's side? I don't see any reactions by you, be it agreeing or pointing out flaws, to hax's accusations, although you are clearly active. Why don't you think Newb is scum? Or are you just too busy pointing fingers at me to bother thinking about it?

Why don't I think Newb is scum? Who said I didn't think Newb was scum? Where did I say that? I'm not on Newb's side. Part of playing Mafia is keeping your eyes open, Cephrir.

And don't think "helpful" as much as "condescending". And I don't think I ever called you scum, either.

Your words contradict the facts, Cephrir.

EDIT: Condescending's a bad word. Think "tolerant" instead.

[Cephrir]

You never actually called me scum, but you've made your thoughts clear. And 'manipualtive and 'scum' mean pretty much the same thing. My point about Newb is that you have yet to say anything about it, and every time I do, you call me manipulative. Therefore, I am led to believe that you are trying to subley defend him.