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Unread 01-08-2007, 12:29 PM   #141
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I've said it once before, and I'll say it again. God is an understanding God. He's not going to send someone to hell for that. You have to fully realize and beleive that Jesus is your lord and savior and then knowing this, reject him before you get condemned to hell.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 01:20 PM   #142
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I've said it once before, and I'll say it again. God is an understanding God. He's not going to send someone to hell for that. You have to fully realize and beleive that Jesus is your lord and savior and then knowing this, reject him before you get condemned to hell.
So God treats people unequally? Why didn't he spread his word through, oh, you know, the rest of the world instead of blind siding them into this situation? He can choose prophets, enlighten and have his faith spread in one isolated piece of the world?

God works in mysterious ways, sure. Mysterious=/=All loving, as far as I can tell.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 02:33 PM   #143
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I never said that only a certain few go to heaven because they heard of Jesus and accepted him as their savior. You have to reject Jesus, AFTER making the realization that he's your savior to be condemned to hell. If you never make the realization or are never introduced to Jesus, before rejecting him, you aren't going to hell. Finally, in the end, it all comes down the lifestyle you've lead on earth.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 02:41 PM   #144
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I never said that only a certain few go to heaven because they heard of Jesus and accepted him as their savior. You have to reject Jesus, AFTER making the realization that he's your savior to be condemned to hell. If you never make the realization or are never introduced to Jesus, before rejecting him, you aren't going to hell. Finally, in the end, it all comes down the lifestyle you've lead on earth.
No, you dodged what I said.

Why would God make Jesus and his entire specimen of humanity accessed to only a small portion of the world?

Why have only European/Middle Eastern Prophets of any kind? Why would a loving god withdraw this love of Jesus and knowledge of everything we know from MOST people? It's senseless, and hardly caring.

It's favoritism, I mean, everywhere I read in the bible, he's been picking favorites since long before Jesus.

Your God just doesn't seem to fly with me. If his mysterious ways are this painfully and ridiculously cryptic, then apparently he's trying to get people to turn away.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 02:48 PM   #145
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Because, in those times that was the center of the earth. All knowledge travelling from east to west, or west to east inevitably passes through here. It lead to christianity being a globalized religion rather quickly wouldn't you say?

The world powers were also centered around this area then in Europe, who better to spread the word of god than a world power?
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Unread 01-08-2007, 02:52 PM   #146
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Also don't forget, you can just as easily take 'word of god' and change it to 'cult' and use that as your answer.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 03:01 PM   #147
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Because, in those times that was the center of the earth. All knowledge travelling from east to west, or west to east inevitably passes through here. It lead to christianity being a globalized religion rather quickly wouldn't you say?

The world powers were also centered around this area then in Europe, who better to spread the word of god than a world power?
Um, what? Why not make the prophets in those areas too? He made SO FREAKIN MANY that it just seems like it's impossible for him to take it out of the 'center' of the world?

And THEN have it take several thousand years? What? This makes *no sense*. It's still favoritism, plain and simple.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 03:07 PM   #148
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Who cares if its favoritsm? Think about it. If people discover Jesus without needing to, then they now know. Its something that gives more responsibility.
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Finally, in the end, it all comes down the lifestyle you've lead on earth.
Sorry, for the first time this thread I'm gonna have to disagree with you, B_real. It says several times in the bible that whether you go to heaven or not is independant of the lifestyle you lead as long as you repent for whatever bad you've done. You can be the nicest person in the world, give the most charity, help the most people...but in the end it comes down to if you accept Jesus or not.

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Why would God make Jesus and his entire specimen of humanity accessed to only a small portion of the world?
In the old testament days, everyone who existed knew who God was. And they knew that a savior would be sent eventually. So at one time, the entirety of humanity did have access to the info. But, a lot fell away, which leads back to my earlier bible quote. Which literally translated means that if your forefathers rejected God, you were going to Hell unless you repented. The same follows today. The reason so many people on Earth have no access to the Bible or what it teaches is because their ancestors fell away a long time ago and their family line never got back on the right track.
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Unread 01-08-2007, 03:36 PM   #150
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In the old testament days, everyone who existed knew who God was. And they knew that a savior would be sent eventually. So at one time, the entirety of humanity did have access to the info. But, a lot fell away, which leads back to my earlier bible quote. Which literally translated means that if your forefathers rejected God, you were going to Hell unless you repented. The same follows today. The reason so many people on Earth have no access to the Bible or what it teaches is because their ancestors fell away a long time ago and their family line never got back on the right track.
You mean people that have been there since before the times of Egypt...?

I mean, I don't see how that comes in, when these people that have been neglected of any of God's inspiration since before God's Inspiration came about.

And forever after.

And God not doing that past the pure biblical days of the Saints.
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