wait, CAN a Lightsaber deflect magic missiles?

[Meister]

... yeah, I got nothing.

Originally Posted by Akamaz

hey, here's a question, could the deathstar laser be deflected by a jedi with a lightsaber? i mean, all it really is is a big blaster bolt

I can just see that poor guy who drew the shortest straw standing in a field with his lightsaber at the ready going "I should have listened to Mom and become a droid mechanic."

[The Argent Lord]

Originally Posted by Akamaz

hey, here's a question, could the deathstar laser be deflected by a jedi with a lightsaber? i mean, all it really is is a big blaster bolt

Well, yeah, but it's have to be a really big lightsaber, or it wouldn't end well. Think about the lightsaber like a mirror. Now, a blaster bolt is smaller than the blade's width, so the saber can deflect it just fine. This is the equivalent of aiming a laser pointer at a mirror. Everything deflects, and anything behind the mirror is untouched. But the death star is different. It's a really, really freaking huge beam. Trying to block it with a lightsaber is like pointing a spotlight at your mirror. It'll reflect part of it, but the rest will go right past. Also, it'll go out after deflecting a very small part of the beam, as the hilt is vaporized.

[Artstsym]

Ok, check it out. A light saber CANNOT deflect a magic missle,based on the fact that one could not swing it fast enough to constantly have it around him/her at all times and at some point the MM would get through, but if you had, say, a wall of light sabers stacked on top of each other in between you and the caster, the DM might be able to rule that as a improvised wall of force and a wall of force or shield spell would block a MM. By the way, why does it matter? Magic Missile is uber-weak anyway. If you have light sabers at this point, why do you care if the enemy tosses some lv 1 spells at you? As for the death star bolt, could you take the splash damage it would induce?

[Phlegyas]

Magic Missile is uber-weak anyway.

Hmmmmmm... so, I take it it is safe to ignore the rest of your opinion then? :p

[mauve]

I think the ability to deflect a magic missile would depend on the Jedi. If it's some semi-random dude with a small fan following, like Kit Fisto or Aayla Secura, then he/she might make a valiant effort but fail horribly in the end. If it's just some completely random dude who has no name at all, he's toast. If it's Obi-Wan Kenobi, then LucasFilm magically alters the fabric of reality so that not only can he DEFLECT the magic missile, he can bounce it back at the wizard, kill said wizard, and then kill everyone the wizard holds dear. Because Lucas needs Obi-Wan to survive until Episode Four, and the power of legally binding film contracts is even greater than those of logic and nature.

[Fifthfiend]

Also cause he's either Ewan MacGregor or Alec Guiness, who are both totally awesome.

By comparison like, badass scary James-Earl-Jones-voiced Darth Vader from episodes IV-VI would totally slap aside any stupid magic missle you tried to throw at him, while whiny kiddie sissy douche Darth Vader from episodes I-III would try and get stung on the ass, and then curl up into the fetal position, weeping and sucking his thumbs.

Well, since you can put three crystals into a lightsaber, with 1 of them having to be a colored one, and the other two changing the qualities of it, I would assume that you could somehow turn a chunk of Kryptonyte into one of the altering-type crystals. The real question is why would you want to? I mean, what are the chances that a Jedi and Superman are going to cross paths? And beyond that, why would a Jedi and Superman be fighting each other? Even if we're just talking about one of the other Kryptonians, who live close enough to Earth to send baby Supes over before he is even aged beyond infancy (assuming no stasis) and the others who escaped are capable of reaching Earth within Supes' lifetime(stasis wouldn't matter), they're probably soo far away from any Sith or Jedi that it becomes a moot point.

Unless...perhaps the Sith were the ones who destroyed Krypton! There's no telling how far their grasp is...

You could always get real nutty and throw in one of those crazy-ass alternate-colors of Kryptonite in there. Sure you've still got the issue of where do you get ahold of Superman to use this thing on, but once you do how awesome is it gonna be to whack him with your Red Kryptonite lightsaber and all of a sudden Superman grows three heads or gets transformed into Bizarro Superman or ceases to have ever existed?

Of course what'd be really sweet would be if you got hold of whatever rock they make those fuckin' Green Lantern rings out of.

[Dino_Hunter]

I was under the assumtion the the light saber could block most any projectile, the mian question is if the magic missile is stronger then a consentrated beam of light.

[42PETUNIAS]

I was under the assumtion the the light saber could block most any projectile, the mian question is if the magic missile is stronger then a consentrated beam of light.

It's not a projectile though, its magic. And one of the main questions is if it would go straight for the person, or loop around until it could hit.

[Yellow Mage]

The only way a Lightsaber could truly block a Magic Missile would be to assume that perpetual motion exsits, and with great reflexes, too. Sure, one could discuss what could happen if a Magic Missile touched a Lightsaber, but unless the traget was the lightsaber itself and not the wielder, the Missile would never make contact.

Now, from two entirely different planes of reality, you have on one side Issac, and the other, Random Combat Jedi Android Code #44445. The Android is a programmed master at the way with the Lightsaber, with a Devastating Critical feat and all Specialization feats to prove it. Not bad for a Construct type Fighter, eh?

However, Issac practically INVENTED the Magic Missile, with such spells acredited to him such as various Missile Storms to accompany those of a higher understanding of magic. If there's a feat that enhances Evocations, this Wizard (with specialization in Evocations, of course) has it.

Issac casts a single, simple Magic Missile spell with the target being #44445. #44445 waves the lightsaber to block, but the Magic Missile, now partially blocked, now searches for a new opening. Lather, Rinse, Repeat. Assuming #44445 ran on infinite motion, the battle to not get hit by the relatively weak spell would continue for eternity until a third party decided to intervene. It would be in the form of:

A. Another Wizard casting any in the Dispel series at the perpetually seeking missile (because it is being infinitely held at bay, BUT NOT STOPPED, it is easier to target), thus ending the session.

B. Old Issac over there getting wise and saying "he only has one Lightsaber," and keep casting Missiles until eventually one breaches the paper-thin Lightsaber parry defense (take note that at least one will be forever blocked, unless #44445 takes enough damage to break its perpetual motion, if possible).

C. I don't know of a third, but many more possibilities of a Magic Missile versus the perpetual Lightsaber and how to end it could very well exist.

Point? A Lightsaber, even at its infinite parrying potential, can only even then just barely equal ONE Magic Missile in its fight of Attack/Defense / Accuracy/Evasion. The only way to truly stop a Magic Missile is to, in real space, cover your entire self with no flanks in a bubble-shield of sort, so that if you are targeted, the shield will, logically, HAVE to be the on that takes the hit, because in the beginning, the spellcaster couldn't have targeted something like a Magic Missile inside of a sphere in the first place.

Which brings us to a topic of Magic Missile in direct contact with any material targeted. That is open to an infinite number of theories, materials, etcetera, but as of now, because we all know how good magic is against magic (fire versus fire, someone has to win scenario), the most effecient proven way to avoid getting your frail mage body hit by your own medicine is with an abjuration spell like the Shield Spell.

So, if absolutely EVERYTHING was working in the favor of #44445 and his own devices (perpetual motion, ONE Missile), which is highly unlikely, it can still only hope to be at an eternal stalemate with what is a mere Level 1 spell. Otherwise, it's gettin' hit. Case closed.

[42PETUNIAS]

The only way a Lightsaber could truly block a Magic Missile would be to assume that perpetual motion exsits, and with great reflexes, too. Sure, one could discuss what could happen if a Magic Missile touched a Lightsaber, but unless the traget was the lightsaber itself and not the wielder, the Missile would never make contact.

Or, as has been discussed in this thread, the lightsaber could count as an extension of the jedi, and the missile could be stopped with the force, or absorbed into the lightsaber like force lightning. Reading the whole thread before posting can help you get some background on which questions and opinions have been raised, and that was pretty much the first.