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Unread 01-19-2007, 07:23 PM   #391
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There is zero chance God would create a person, just for them to go to hell.
And yet, God is omniscient. So he knows everything, and I mean everything. As soon as he created the first man, he knew exactly what would follow. Forever. So when he created the first man, he knew the he would send many, many, many people to hell by doing this. Therefore, God has indeed created people to send them to hell. This has been discussed previously in this thread too. It's a huge thread, so I can understand not wanting to read through it, but glancing through it might be a good idea. It's great that you want to be in this, because it's been dead for a while, but a little basic knowledge on what has been discussed can be helpful.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 07:28 PM   #392
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There's a lot of silliness flying around.

First of all, all I meant was that Eve being tricked seems to count as sin, but you said that "falling into a trap" doesn't, yet they seem like the same thing. I wasn't referring to the outcome, only the action's classification.

Second, it doesn't matter whether the serial killer is mentally right or not; that's just attacking the example. You can use something small if you want. Steal a dollar and feel no remorse. Does that make you mentally unstable? No. Is it regretless sin? Yep. Hellbound? According to 42PETUNIAS, indeed.
On the first part, I'm sorry I misunderstood you, but still, guilt might might have been involved, but after talking to 42PETUNIAS, they must have gone to hell eventually, being Jesus hadn't come yet. :shifty:
For the Dollar example, maybe guilt isn't the perfect word for it, but more of knowing that there'll be negitive reprocusions.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 07:59 PM   #393
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So does or doesn't being trapped into an action count as sin?

And no, guilt is exactly the word I wanted to use, because that's the word you used in the first place.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 08:13 PM   #394
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I ment for me to have used in the first place.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 09:02 PM   #395
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Well then, please restate the corrected phrase, because I'm lost now.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 09:17 PM   #396
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I am too....I think I'm done debating relgious philosphys anyway..That was fun though.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 09:47 PM   #397
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well... that was hardly intellectually fufilling.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 11:04 PM   #398
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Da poeples here is be smart, huh?
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Unread 01-19-2007, 11:08 PM   #399
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Da poeples here is be smart, huh?
Just cause this is unmodded dusnt mean you can talk cletus.
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Actually, it does mean that. But it certainly wouldn't be appreciated.

To keep something going, I'd like to ask another question. Of the religious folk, again. At the beginning I asked why you believed. Now I'll be more specific: why do you believe in your particular religion, as opposed to a different one?
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