Dragonlance Mafia

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Captain Combustible

Because he came up cult leader in investigation, besides whos to say fenris isn't cult (besides fenris himself)

Who's to say you're not lying out your ass?

[Captain Combustible]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Who's to say you're not lying out your ass?

Let the "real" leiutennant call me a lier than, It would be rather stupid of me to sacrifice myself to kill one townie.

[P-Sleazy]

Fenris, would you be willing to put your life at stake based on this statement.

Originally Posted by Fenris

Because if Nikose is evil, and I defend him, then I must be evil too.

Because we could just kill you instead to see if Nikose is the cult leader or not if the statement about you being the first cultification is true.

Originally Posted by Fenris

Oh, Nikose has been accused. I think he is not the cult leader, 'cause I haven't been inducted yet. He likes to mason with me and given the opportunity to do so, he would.

soon followed by

Originally Posted by Fenris

I am convinced that Nikose is innocent, but I have been wrong before. If it turns out he's the cult leader, I ask the Vig to kill me tonight.

If you turn out cult, Nikose=leader. If you turn out innocent, Nikose =/= leader.

It seems like you're betting your life on this. But I must ask you, are you REALLY willing to bet your life on this?

[Nikose Tyris]

Whoa, Whoa, WHOA.

I take a good few hours to not be online, from 12 to 9, and come online to everyone swarming me?

Hey, here's an idea!

Before gang-raping the guy who didn't have a chance to sign on, let him have a chance to defend himself?

I have a flying... what is it, elephant? buzzing around drawing attention to me.

Now, the first thing we should note is that giant annoying things flying around should always be heeded. that's just common sense. It's not like something abstract and surreal would ever mislead us.

And it's not like a mafiate would ever capitalize on an oppertunity, like CC did.

VOTE: CC

Because you're roleclaim is drek.

[Captain Combustible]

Fenris, so you're 100% cerain theres no possible way nikose would ever not recruit you as cult and the only way you can be 100% sure he isn't scum is if you were masons with him. For todays lynch its pretty much me or Nikose because one of us has to be scum. here are the two options:

Lynch Me:
A: I turn up town: Nikose is Cult and Fenris probably is too
B: I'm scum: Proceed as normal

Lynch Nikose
A: He turns up town: Lynch Me tommorow
B: He turns up cult: Lynch Fenris

ask yourself this: why would I do this if I was lying? If I was scum I would either A: have the actual lieutennant counter claim I die B: Turns out Nikose is mason I Die or C: Get nikose lynched I get viged or lynched day after I die. Anyway it's almost certain that I would die today or tommorow if I was lying and the only possible way this would benefit me is if I was about to be lynched and this would let me live one day longer. Also I would like to hear nikose defend himself.

edit: ooh nikose posted

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

And it's not like a mafiate would ever capitalize on an oppertunity, like CC did.

So now I'm Mafia? I throughout day one and two argued that barrel was Mafia even though nobody else agreed with me and barrel turned up mafia, and the fact is if i'm lying the "real" lieutennant or Sherrif for that matter would have counter-claimed theres really no reason for him to not have.

edit2: and with 3 mafia left it wouldn't really be a great strategy to trade the town 1 for 1

[Nikose Tyris]

Except your claim lacks any real substance. No competant Leutenant would reveal themselves, proving that you're either incompitent, or playing a risky card. You claimed "Lieutennant" when you can't spell it, rather than "PO" or the name in the signup for the role, making it seem like a stupid plan you made up on the fly.

You grab the first person there seems to be a solid way to get evidence on, and rather than saying, "NIK IS MAFIA!", which you know is untrue, you pick an anti-town role that isn't mafia and try and lead a crusade, in which you have a moderate chance of getting it right- If I was the CL, then you'd look like a hero and have evidence protection via me, and get FenrisWolf Killed too via association.

overall, it's either really clever, or absolutely retarded. And I Don't think you'd make a plan this clever, requiring this much forsight on your own.

[Captain Combustible]

Originally Posted by Major Blood

3) Of the 25, there will be one Gerard uth Mondar: Sherrif. The sherrif cannot use outside methods of communication, except when talking to the GO.

4) Of the 25, there will be one lieutennant. The lieutennant can talk to the sherrif outside of the thread through PM's and Instant Messenger.

Fact #1: He said this was a role hes using
Fact #2: that is how he spelled it
Fact #3: I'm not claiming to be the PO

you should actually check the facts before calling someone stupid and "incompitent"

edit: ok I changed 3

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

Fenris, would you be willing to put your life at stake based on this statement.

I have 3 things to say about this.

1. God damn edit button is right next to the quote button and I keep on clicking it instead of the quote button. I nearly deleted and replaced your post with my own before I realized what was what.

2. Note the italicization around "must." It denotes sarcasm!

3. Go for it, if Nikose ends up cult leader, then kill me.

Because we could just kill you instead to see if Nikose is the cult leader or not if the statement about you being the first cultification is true.

However, if I turn up innocent and Nikose is the cult leader, then you just killed a townie and gave Nikose (assuming he is the cult leader) the opportunity to induct again. My being the cult leader is not in question here, Nikose's is.

If you turn out cult, Nikose=leader. If you turn out innocent, Nikose =/= leader.

Not necessarily, but the likelihood is there, yes.

It seems like you're betting your life on this. But I must ask you, are you REALLY willing to bet your life on this?

Like I said, if Nikose ends up cult leader, kill me.

EDIT: CC, the lieutenant can talk to the sheriff, but the sheriff cannot talk back according to the rules, unless Major Blood screwed up again. And also your third fact is not proven true, so don't claim it to be a fact.

Nikose, tone down the anger. That last post could have been offensive.

Am I missing anything? Oh.

Unvote: Newb

I believe he's still guilty, but it's a battle for another day.

[P-Sleazy]

You know, we could just kill fenris to lead us to who the liar is.

If you look at it, he's in 2 of the 4 outcomes that CC listed. In both of those he's cult. So why not lynch him, find out if he's cult or town, then lynch based on that. This way, we have the least risk in losing someone important to the town (assuming Fenris isn't a town aligned quazi-role[BG, Vig, Leuitennant, Sheriff] if he's one of the last two, he could be hinting at something).

Of course, this is also assuming Fenris is 100% sure that Nikose would have inducted him.

EDIT: Didn't see fenris's post when I posted this. Just ignore it now.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

You know, we could just kill fenris to lead us to who the liar is.

If you look at it, he's in 2 of the 4 outcomes that CC listed. In both of those he's cult. So why not lynch him, find out if he's cult or town, then lynch based on that. This way, we have the least risk in losing someone important to the town (assuming Fenris isn't a town aligned quazi-role[BG, Vig, Leuitennant, Sheriff] if he's one of the last two, he could be hinting at someing).

Of course, this is also assuming Fenris is 100% sure that Nikose would have inducted him.

I am going to say this one more time.

Who is more dangerous to you, the Cult Leader, or a Cult Initiate?

I am not being considered the Cult Leader. Nikose is. I am willing to die if Nikose turns out guilty.