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Unread 09-06-2007, 03:23 PM   #471
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The whole thing with Bookie was pretty absurd, I thought... though I was in the know. Anyway, by then Carnage was a clone, and I guess people thought this meant that Carnage (clone) and Carnage (original) both got their own night kills... but then what happened to the mafia kill?

I pointed out that it doesn't make sense for Bookworm to be Carnage, but since there were only two kills that night it was likely he was the last member of the mafia.
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Unread 09-06-2007, 03:29 PM   #472
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Well, my join+public role claim was one of my very first posts here, so if nothing else, it's a lesson.

Still, when Moog's PM'd me about the position, I told him I didn't care either way and I'd take the random choice. Ended up getting Rhino.

Not too mad about my play, got out of a couple jams and stirred some shit up. Besides, even though I died, I still WON!

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Unread 09-06-2007, 04:15 PM   #473
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Thanks to Tendronai, I wouldn't have won this if I hadn't been culted. :p Tendronai's accusation was based on me collaborating with other scum, though, which wasn't true at the time; I guess I just got unlucky.
Well, you should have went with the IHMN lynch. That was all I really based it on.

I thought I did pretty well this game.From what I can recall, except for B_Real, all my votes were for scum.
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Unread 09-06-2007, 05:34 PM   #474
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Damn, I seriously misread CC there.

Besides, the journalists were all probably guilty of libel.

EDIT- Ironically, the one I was least sure about turned out to be Carnage.

Also, killing Carnage with a flamethrower? Awesome.
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Unread 09-06-2007, 06:12 PM   #475
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Man I got double slaughtered. I was a poor old lady.
Good work cult.
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Unread 09-06-2007, 06:34 PM   #476
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I need to stop being mafia don so people won't lynch me day 1. At least I came back, but that was just to lose.

Good work cult.

You cultees all suck. :P
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Unread 09-06-2007, 11:33 PM   #477
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Well as far as Cephrir goes he had investigated on Night 1 but kept the results to himself. On night 2 he investigated Ape Boy and wanted the results to be made public, but OctoberRaven had already targetted him with a night kill. In addition the back-ups couldn't act until the main role was already dead (for both jailer and investigator) so the back-ups roles might not have ever come into play if they were killed off too early or the main role never died which I was afraid might have happened prior to the game starting. Incidentally, I did allow the Serial Killer to be immune to Mafia kills if Venom was in charge but I suppose if I had considered to get the Serial Killer more immunities then I would have to do the same with the Cult Leader too.

I was also wondering why everyone was thinking Mr. Bookworm HAD to be Carnage but I didn't want to intervene and point out the huge gap in logic there.
moogle never sent me the result of my induction so when I first said Bookworm was carnage I didn't know the serial killer was culted and since venom and carnage have similar flavors I mistook the flavor and purple text for venom so at first I actually didn't notice it was venom who didn't act (If I had I would just have accused bookie of being Venom) and since Bookie didn't bother defending himself and I could just get bookie quicklynched before anyone really noticed that Carnage had indeed acted.

I also want to mention that even though I seem to often be scum I haven't ever actually requested a role. Really my strategy for this game was pretty much to play like I would normally until the end when I tried to secure a cult win and to cult people I thought had roles and I turned out to be pretty good at guessing who had a powerole (or maybe I was just lucky) as my induction of apeboy was lucky and I didn't really suspect Nayno of being the SK before I culted him while my culting of rygar was because I was pretty certain he was either the jailor or the Bodyguard.

Also just like Kingdom Hearts Mafia I managed to get through without anybody targeting me with a night role. Also while I had fun as the cult leader I would like to say that the cult is a bit over powered as a role and probably needs to be weakened maybe by making inductes lose their night abilities.

Thanks for running moogle I enjoyed this game and you definately have a talent for flavor.
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Unread 09-06-2007, 11:40 PM   #478
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I think the standard for weakening cults is to kill the cult leader if he targets a scum role.
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Unread 09-06-2007, 11:51 PM   #479
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I think the standard for weakening cults is to kill the cult leader if he targets a scum role.
I would say Kill the cult leader if he tries to cult the SK or vig I mean a mafiate I could see doing whatever as long as they get to win but the sk and vig conversations would go like this:
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CL: Please listen to me I will show you the true way to power and show you how to be saved.
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(B)SK: Sure come on down we will talk it out in my cellar.
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edit: didn't notice that october raven almost choose to kill me night 4.

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Unread 09-07-2007, 09:33 AM   #480
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It should maybe be noted that I didn't actually request a role (never have), and prior to this I had no idea who Jean DeWolff was.
Correct. The funny thing was that I only received maybe 5 role requests total. Four of the five mafiates requested their roles and was either plainly obvious (as in the case of Doc ock rokc or Lunaknight) or publicly requested the role (IHateMakingNames or Ape Boy). Then I believe OctoberRaven and Long-Haired Narcissist were the only other ones to role request. Since nobody asked for the same roles either they automatically got what they wanted. The rest of the roles were handed out randomly by me rolling a d20 and just going down the list of people who signed up. Once enough roles had been assigned I switched over to a d12, then d10, d8, d6, and finally d4 so I wouldn't have to keep re-rolling.

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I'd say it was an interesting game, although I am kinda bummed I got killed the first night. It would've been kind of interesting to see how long I could get away with being a jerk in the Goblin persona after Luna got lynched.
Yeah I was actually looking forward to seeing how people would react to that but it never came into play .

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Very good game Moog, you're awesome at writing flavor.
Thanks, I wrote nice flavor to hopefully keep everyone interested as well as for making it easier to understand myself when going over things for the game's records.

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Well, my join+public role claim was one of my very first posts here, so if nothing else, it's a lesson.

Still, when Moog's PM'd me about the position, I told him I didn't care either way and I'd take the random choice. Ended up getting Rhino.

Not too mad about my play, got out of a couple jams and stirred some shit up. Besides, even though I died, I still WON!

HA-HAAA! 1-0-1
Despite your public role request you actually did very good I thought Ape Boy and really surprised me at how well you handled yourself. Originally I didn't include Rhino as part of the mafia and it was Sandman in his place instead but since you originally requested for Rhino I figured I could swap them out without a problem.

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Damn, I seriously misread CC there.

Besides, the journalists were all probably guilty of libel.

EDIT- Ironically, the one I was least sure about turned out to be Carnage.

Also, killing Carnage with a flamethrower? Awesome.
Yeah CC flew right in under the radar most of the game he did outstandingly well and I was bit shocked when you changed your pick for the Vigilante kill on Night 4, but of course I wasn't going to say anything. As far as killing Carnage goes, well fire is his main weakness so it only made sense. With Venom it would have been some sort of sonic gun.

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I need to stop being mafia don so people won't lynch me day 1. At least I came back, but that was just to lose.

Good work cult.

You cultees all suck. :P
*Shrug* It's up to you if you want to keep roleclaiming mafia don or not. However I didn't make the Green Goblin's special powers with you in mind either, I had that originally planned from the start since that was something that was a major part of the Spider-man universe (Norman Osborn coming back after being thought to have died), however it did seem to fit you perfectly since I figured you would roleclaim and get killed immediately. At least you would have the chance to play again and hopefully fly under the radar but everyone seemed to pick up on that.

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moogle never sent me the result of my induction so when I first said Bookworm was carnage I didn't know the serial killer was culted and since venom and carnage have similar flavors I mistook the flavor and purple text for venom so at first I actually didn't notice it was venom who didn't act (If I had I would just have accused bookie of being Venom) and since Bookie didn't bother defending himself and I could just get bookie quicklynched before anyone really noticed that Carnage had indeed acted.

I also want to mention that even though I seem to often be scum I haven't ever actually requested a role. Really my strategy for this game was pretty much to play like I would normally until the end when I tried to secure a cult win and to cult people I thought had roles and I turned out to be pretty good at guessing who had a powerole (or maybe I was just lucky) as my induction of apeboy was lucky and I didn't really suspect Nayno of being the SK before I culted him while my culting of rygar was because I was pretty certain he was either the jailor or the Bodyguard.

Also just like Kingdom Hearts Mafia I managed to get through without anybody targeting me with a night role. Also while I had fun as the cult leader I would like to say that the cult is a bit over powered as a role and probably needs to be weakened maybe by making inductes lose their night abilities.

Thanks for running moogle I enjoyed this game and you definately have a talent for flavor.
I apologize about not sending both PMs to the new cult inductee and the cult leader that was my fault . I also became concerned with the cult's power after a few nights but that was also because you had near perfect aim with your choices for inductees. In fact, had it not been for MaskedJedi protecting OctoberRaven on Night 4 you would have had the Vigilante, Serial Killer, and Venom (who was in control of the mafia at the time) under your wing for 3 kills a night. Perhaps next time the cult inductees will lose any night actions, but retain their immunities as a nice balance for gameplay, I'll have to toy with it a bit and it'll be a while before the next game I run anyway. The trick is to balance it so the Cult Leader still has a chance without nerfing the role entirely by getting an auto-death if you choose the wrong person to induct as I feel that would be cruel.

The reason there wasn't a mafia kill on Night 4 was because Lunaknight had revived by that time and was in control of the mafia's kills, not Roy. However I never received a PM from Lunaknight during that time so no mafia kill was sent in.

Also thank you for the compliment. I have been a huge fan of Spider-man comics for many many years now and I'd like to think I know most of the characters fairly well so it wasn't too hard writing the dialogue and imagining what would happen during fight scenes. At the same time though I didn't want to drag things out too long during the night scenes so I tried limiting it to a few paragraphs for each night action that took place unless it had multiple night actions included in it.

Also if you guys notice, even though most of the bad guys had immunity to one thing or another I made sure that no scum role was immune to lynches as that would just be plain unfair. The town always had the weapon of day lynches to use, and I even made a few townies immune to lynches as well just in case. Going into this game I thought I had tipped the balance too much into the town's favor but I guess not. Anyway thank you all for playing and I hope you all join up for Spider-man 2 mafia when that finally rolls around sometime next year :p .

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