White people in the US are totally racist assholes... says Delaware U. - Page 2

Stomphoof · 11-03-2007, 07:24 AM

I am not a racist...

I just hate everyone around me equally, regardless of skin color!

Melfice · 11-03-2007, 08:22 AM

Funny.
So, let's apply this to Europe.

Yes, I am discriminatory towards ethnic minorities who won't do jack squat to support themselves and live off our goverment, thus from OUR tax money.

Other than that, I fully welcome any Moroccan, Turkish, Polish, Surinam, WHOEVER to live and work in the Netherlands. As long as they take care of themselves.

Still, I'm a racist then. Sure. Whatever then, right?

Now comes the fun part.
If I'm walking past a group of Moroccans* and they ALL spit on the ground while I'm walking past. One of them makes a remark in Moroccan and all of them laugh. +

Apparently, they're discriminating me. But... according to the university, they're not?

How fun.

* Or whatever ethnic minority.

+ This has actually happened to me.

Lady Cygnet · 11-03-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Melfice

Yes, I am discriminatory towards ethnic minorities who won't do jack squat to support themselves and live off our goverment, thus from OUR tax money.

I wouldn't consider you racist so much as I'd consider you a get-up-off-of-your-ass-and-work-ist. I am discriminatory against anyone who won't do jack squat to support themselves and live off of my government, regardless of race. My partner feels the same way, but he believes that there are certain groups who are more prone to living off of the government rather than working to take care of themselves and to allow others who genuinely need the government's help to receive it.

My partner and I are both mixed race, though, so I guess we don't count in this "ZOMG, white ppl are teh racists!!!!1!ishift+1!!!" bs article.

adamark · 11-03-2007, 09:59 AM

I took a class on Racism and that definition was given to us as well (the idea that only white Americans can be racist because they are backed by a historical-cultural structure that protects them).

While there are merits to that argument, there are also pitfalls. Notably, things have changed a hell of a lot. This isn't the 1800s anymore. Or even the 1900s. Our generation is the most tolerant of all time, progress is certainly being made, I think new definitions are needed.

That article made me angry. To be a racist, or racialist, is your right. If you want to think a certain way, that's your right! This is America for pete's sake. Most people have some sort of opinion on race because we're socialized into a culture that talks about it all the time. One can have a negative view of races without being racist. I think there are billions of shades of gray on this subject, and its no one's business to preach and convert people to some special way of thinking.

Mike McC · 11-03-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Melfice

Funny.
So, let's apply this to Europe.

Yes, I am discriminatory towards ethnic minorities who won't do jack squat to support themselves and live off our goverment, thus from OUR tax money.

Other than that, I fully welcome any Moroccan, Turkish, Polish, Surinam, WHOEVER to live and work in the Netherlands. As long as they take care of themselves.

Still, I'm a racist then. Sure. Whatever then, right?

Now comes the fun part.
If I'm walking past a group of Moroccans* and they ALL spit on the ground while I'm walking past. One of them makes a remark in Moroccan and all of them laugh. +

Apparently, they're discriminating me. But... according to the university, they're not?

How fun.

* Or whatever ethnic minority.

+ This has actually happened to me.

Actually, as that link I posted shows, they're not using the popular definition of the word Racism there. Here, they're defining racism in terms of power relationships. In this case, those Moroccans are guilty of Racial Bigotry according to the definitions put forth.

It's like some sort of weird ass sociological way to look at things.

Fifthfiend · 11-03-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Melfice

Yes, I am discriminatory towards ethnic minorities who won't do jack squat to support themselves and live off our goverment, thus from OUR tax money.

So you're saying what, that if white people don't do anything to support themselves are okay?

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Originally Posted by BraveFencer Shinryuu

Actually, as that link I posted shows, they're not using the popular definition of the word Racism there. Here, they're defining racism in terms of power relationships. In this case, those Moroccans are guilty of Racial Bigotry according to the definitions put forth.

It's like some sort of weird ass sociological way to look at things.

Once you sort out the terms and definitions it isn't all that far afield, for all that it's probably a needlessly hostile way of addressing the issues presented.

Lady Cygnet · 11-03-2007, 12:57 PM

I guess the best way to combat "educational programs" like this would be to not attend universities and colleges that do this sort of thing and to encourage one's relatives and children to not attend those universities and colleges.

Melfice · 11-03-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

So you're saying what, that if white people don't do anything to support themselves are okay?

No, not saying that. I just focussed on the ethnic minorities with that statement.

If you want, I'll just say it again.

Yes, I am discriminatory towards ethnic minorities and WHITE PEOPLE alike who won't do jack squat to support themselves and live off our government, thus from OUR tax money.

POS Industries · 11-03-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveFencer Shinryuu

POS: You asked. I deliver.

Yeah, okay, that's some amazing racist garbage right there. On the plus side, the cover page gave me the name of the training guide's author, Dr. Shakti Butler, who appears to be using the program as a way to express her own racist ideologies against white male christian Americans, a group to which she is not entirely part.

For instance, I find it interesting that most biographies on her state that, first and foremost, she is a "multi-racial African-American woman of West Indian and Russian-Jewish descent".

Magus · 11-04-2007, 01:21 AM

There's actually a University of Delaware? I mean, I suppose they have to have one to avoid out-of-state fees at other colleges, but still...next you'll be telling me there's a University of Rhode Island!

While the idea that "only white people can be racist because they are the only ones who are backed by the white power structure and allowed to be" is sort of correct, in a cart-before-the-horse sort of way, I don't see why that means that all white people are racist--just because they are CAPABLE of it or ALLOWED to be doesn't mean they are.

Well, that and the first statement isn't correct, since plenty of minorities are allowed by our "racist white government" to be racist all they want. *enter Chris Rock*

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Stomphoof One Oddball in a Sea of Normals Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 192	I am not a racist... I just hate everyone around me equally, regardless of skin color! __________________ Nur manchmal, wenn der S�dwind weht und wildes Fernweh durch mich geht wie schauerliche St�rme, dann sehn ich mich wieder nach der See.

11-04-2007, 01:21 AM	#20
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	There's actually a University of Delaware? I mean, I suppose they have to have one to avoid out-of-state fees at other colleges, but still...next you'll be telling me there's a University of Rhode Island! While the idea that "only white people can be racist because they are the only ones who are backed by the white power structure and allowed to be" is sort of correct, in a cart-before-the-horse sort of way, I don't see why that means that all white people are racist--just because they are CAPABLE of it or ALLOWED to be doesn't mean they are. Well, that and the first statement isn't correct, since plenty of minorities are allowed by our "racist white government" to be racist all they want. enter Chris Rock __________________ The Valiant Review

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11-03-2007, 12:57 PM	#17
Lady Cygnet Hasn't changed her avatar in years Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Beyond Thunderdome Posts: 1,234	I guess the best way to combat "educational programs" like this would be to not attend universities and colleges that do this sort of thing and to encourage one's relatives and children to not attend those universities and colleges.