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Unread 11-12-2008, 09:01 PM   #3831
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I think the mouth needs to be just a micron lower, too. Also, is this supposed to be an adult or a child? Her eyes are pretty big and widely-spaced, which lends itself to a child's face. It should be longer in an adult's, as well.

I agree that the nose fits very well.
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Unread 11-13-2008, 05:06 PM   #3832
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Also, is this supposed to be an adult or a child? Her eyes are pretty big and widely-spaced, which lends itself to a child's face. It should be longer in an adult's, as well.
Yeah, I intended to make it a child's face.

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Maybe try stretching them out a bit? It looks like one of those porcelain doll mouths (or a child's, take your pick). I've noticed that a lot of people have fairly wide mouths, most reaching to about the middle of the eyes.
Alright, I was getting irritated with the lips that certain things didn't cross my mind. Thanks!

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I think the mouth needs to be just a micron lower, too.
Never thought about that. I'll give that a shot.

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Otherwise not bad, I really like the nose and eyes.
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I agree that the nose fits very well.
Thanks guys. I spent so much time drawing and erasing the face atleast some of it's paying off.
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Unread 11-13-2008, 06:15 PM   #3833
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Savage Thinking - As well as the lips being a smidge too high (actually, if you draw the face guidelines, your lips do lineup well, but it still looks kind of funky, I found if you lower them by 1/8 of an inch, they seem to fall well.

I think the biggest thing throwing off your person isn't necessarily the lips, but all of the extra lines. Like her chin lines are rather pronounced as well as some of the lines around the nose (the little dip in skin above the mouth and the cheek lines). Maybe lightening or thinning out those lines would help as well (especially since she's supposed to be young, younger people don't have as pronounced facial shapes as adults do).

Also, as far as the lips go. If you cut her in half, the left (our left) side is smiling, but the right side is frowning. I know it's supposed to be a half-smile thing, but the right side should also be up in a slight smile rather than down in a frown.

<- just a little bit of moving and erasing/lightening some lines. Maybe something like this might give you an idea. (hope you don't mind I edited your artwork.


Anyway, I still think it looks really great. I love your style.

TDK - Nice self portrait. It'd look cool all shaded and stuff too.

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Unread 11-16-2008, 06:49 PM   #3834
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So here's my two failed attempts at CG.






I think my main problem is I SUCK at figuring out which shadows go where and stuff.
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Unread 11-17-2008, 12:54 AM   #3835
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Shadows are a bitch. You still using the reference photo, or are you changing the lighting up for the cool factor?
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Unread 11-17-2008, 06:23 AM   #3836
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Unread 11-18-2008, 06:22 PM   #3837
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TDK - I like the first one you did best, although the light on the left side of his nose (our left) looks kind of odd. It's looking pretty good though.


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After a year of not drawing FMA (atleast nothing serious), I have begun again, and I'm pretty pleased.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 07:30 PM   #3838
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Aw, he's so cute!

TDK - I think you're on the right track with the first one. The dark patch maybe needs to be blended more, and not come quite so close to the eye, but that might be all. Keep it up, it's really coming along.

Savage Thinking - I agree with CJ that the main problem is the lower face needing to be lightened up. I also think straightening up the frowning part helps; there was something about the lips themselves that threw me off and that was one of the thoughts I had too. I do like the face, though. The eyes especially are fantastic.
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Unread 11-19-2008, 09:51 AM   #3839
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Savage Thinking - As well as the lips being a smidge too high (actually, if you draw the face guidelines, your lips do lineup well, but it still looks kind of funky, I found if you lower them by 1/8 of an inch, they seem to fall well.

I think the biggest thing throwing off your person isn't necessarily the lips, but all of the extra lines. Like her chin lines are rather pronounced as well as some of the lines around the nose (the little dip in skin above the mouth and the cheek lines). Maybe lightening or thinning out those lines would help as well (especially since she's supposed to be young, younger people don't have as pronounced facial shapes as adults do).

Also, as far as the lips go. If you cut her in half, the left (our left) side is smiling, but the right side is frowning. I know it's supposed to be a half-smile thing, but the right side should also be up in a slight smile rather than down in a frown.

<- just a little bit of moving and erasing/lightening some lines. Maybe something like this might give you an idea. (hope you don't mind I edited your artwork.
Ah yes! Thanks a lot CJ. That helped so much.

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Savage Thinking - I agree with CJ that the main problem is the lower face needing to be lightened up. I also think straightening up the frowning part helps; there was something about the lips themselves that threw me off and that was one of the thoughts I had too.
Yeah, one thing that immediately came to mind after posting that picture is that thinning out the lips would help a lot (something that CJ did), although I may see if thinning them out to a slightly greater extent would still look okay.
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Unread 11-19-2008, 04:18 PM   #3840
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Ah I am really proud of this picture. I used a tutorial to help with coloring, but I didn't really follow it at all other than helping me be more dramatic with my shade colors (I think that's a big problem I have, making my shade colors be too close to the value of my main colors) which I think helped immensely.



I am thoroughly pleased.
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