Feminism? Discussion?! Of course! or Why there is no Discussion forum anymore

[DFM]

Originally Posted by Premonitions

Different, not inferior, DIFFERENT.

This is an important point that needs to be established and I hope nobody tries to argue things like 'Well men can run faster and lift more how does that not make women physically inferior?' because if you do you're being dumb.

Originally Posted by Premonitions

Which Black Guys? Bantus? BUshmen? angolans? Nubians? African Americans? African-Diasporics?

Well not the American ones, they're all wusses.

Originally Posted by Premonitions

Which White guys? Scandinavians? anglo-Saxxons? Mediteraneans?

Mediterraneans are Ar-Ahbs you can't trick me. >:[


Edit: I don't know I've only ever seen people go Ha! at nut shots and groin kicks and the like so I guess personal mileage varies.

Edit 2: Sometimes they go Oooh! but they do that for any painful looking slapstick.

[Mike McC]

All I have to say.

[Archbio]

The only real reason you don't see more women in slapstick is because it does bring up uncomfortable connotations of domestic abuse that people looking for a laugh would rather not deal with.

I'm pretty sure those slapstick tropes originated before sitcoms where domestic abuse was a laughing matter.

The thing is, though, unfortunate connotations is my problem with it. Intentional unfortunate connotations. Kind of like "lol, imma rape a woman with my shoe!" Komedy!

You usually see the opposite, the joke being that she doesn't get hurt at all because she's got no testicles. Hah!

That kind of totally goes in the direction of what I'm saying. The originator of the trope had testicles, his audience had testicles. And I'm not at all convinced about the amount of pain, however testicular trauma and getting hit in the vulva compare up. Testicles being hit is played as the most painful thing ever, compared to how unsafely placed testicles are.

Edit: Oh, you haven't seen men react empathically to ballbusting sequences? Hard to believe.

[Premmy]

Originally Posted by DFM

This is an important point that needs to be established and hope nobody tries to argue things like 'Well men can run faster and lift more how does that not make women physically inferior?' because if you do you're being dumb.

See, the problem is the people discussing differences vocally and getting the most attentions HAVE been saying that, so now anytime someone says that all kinds of people are different, which is an awesome thing, the common reaction is "HOW DARE YOU SAY YOU'RE BETTER!" and then we get a shouting match.

That kind of totally goes in the direction of what I'm saying. The originator of the trope had testicles, his audience had testicles.

Another way to view it is very simple. Women don't get kicked in the balls. Men do. It's a male-centric form of comedy. slapstick is'nt just about getting hit, it's about getting hit in a way designed to be funny. A Scene of someone getting punched is'nt inherently slapstick. Nut-shots hinge on the presence of nuts, and the reaction of getting hit in them, for the humor.

[DFM]

Originally Posted by Mike McC

All I have to say.

I've read the first page of that blog and I like it but I don't see the entry I think you want us to see, it's mostly Valentine's stuff.

Edit: Holy god this thread is moving fast

Originally Posted by Archbio

The thing is, though, unfortunate connotations is my problem with it. Intentional unfortunate connotations. Kind of like "lol, imma rape a woman with my shoe!" Komedy!

Tell me Archbio how do you feel about jokes involving dominatrixes or male prison rape?

Originally Posted by Archbio

That kind of totally goes in the direction of what I'm saying. The originator of the trope had testicles, his audience had testicles. And I'm not at all convinced about the amount of pain, however testicular trauma and getting hit in the vulva compare up. Testicles being hit is played as the most painful thing ever, compared to how unsafely placed testicles are.

I don't think I disagreed with this (And I'm going to feel silly if I did) but yeah slapstick was written by men for the general public (ie men) and men know getting hit in the balls is painful, and therefore funny. They don't know from first hand knowledge that it is also painful for girls, so they assumed it wasn't, I am totally with you there!

Originally Posted by Archbio

Edit: Oh, you haven't seen men react empathically to ballbusting sequences? Hard to believe.

I haven't ever seen anyone clutch their balls and go "Ow!". They make the same noises they make when any other really painful thing happens, maybe you watch movies with the Three Stooges I don't know!

[Great Cartoonist]

To think that this thread started because a previous thread on racism got derailed into a thread about kicking women in the crotch.

What, are the majority of us here middle-aged immature men?

[Premmy]

Originally Posted by Great Cartoonist

To think that this thread started because a previous thread on racism got derailed into a thread about kicking women in the crotch.

Reason number 2 Prem'd rather not make a thread about Racism.
Also that was a drunk-post, don't think it counts.

[CABAL49]

And this thread is getting derailed by talking about how another thread got derailed. Speaking of kicking women

I still feel that contributes to our discussion. Is this terrible movie sexist?

[Premmy]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

And this thread is getting derailed by talking about how another thread got derailed. Speaking of kicking women

I still feel that contributes to our discussion. Is this terrible movie sexist?

Most movies are in some way.

[DFM]

If it is the bear running up to someone in the woods and slugging them makes up for it.