The New Gangster RP Discussion Thread! - Page 2

Overcast · 03-16-2010, 03:36 PM

Hmm, if it is three people in a room locked up it is definitely going to Eels, who probably has far more experience in closed quarters melee combat than any of them. If they are running around the city trying to kill I'd toss it between Adin and Eels with the competition being network of crime vs possible Rockstar Games protagonist. Really no matter which way I look Johann get's the screws. He is physically weak, he is noticeably foreign and thus easy to find, and his subtlety, typically his primary strength, would probably be worth absolutely nothing against Adin and Eels, the first who would shoot him on sight and eat him later, the second who might take his time and repeat the disposal technique.

Geminex · 03-16-2010, 06:07 PM

So... what's stopping Johann from giving your description to the cops and paying them not to take you alive?

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He'd creep you out before the fight and have the psychological advantage over everyone

How's Eels scary?

Overcast · 03-16-2010, 06:46 PM

For the most part you have that any one of their asses could do that, Adin being probably the only one who would actually want to. The question is how does Johann stop the cops, Adin would use blackmail. Eels still has his genuine murderous intent. Johann is still a weak man who lost his powerful backer and I repeat that he is damn easy to find. Adin on the other hand is a master at blending in with people.

Krylo · 03-16-2010, 06:47 PM

Obviously there is only one way to settle this argument.

Mauve, Art only needs one of us. MAKE IT SO!

(Though I admit to suggesting the closed room because it gave Eels the advantage)

Red Mage Black · 03-16-2010, 07:24 PM

I don't suppose Ben is a full time employee, is he? I can also imagine that he gets paid a good sum for whatever info he can get to the big man in charge. Especially if it concerns their current business in the back room. Guess I'll also need to know what info he does know and what information he should find out.

Geminex · 03-16-2010, 08:03 PM

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Mauve, Art only needs one of us. MAKE IT SO!

I would have thought that the only superfluous one is Eels. I mean sure, he's good at what he does, but there's other killers out there.
Adin is valuable because of his contacts...
And Johann is valuable, because without him the Speakeasy would start losing customers and business.
Not to mention that Adin's judgement doesn't seem to be too sound on matters of "Kill a foreign dude or slaughter a guy in this city and burn down his house".

Possibly you're right that Johann would come off worst in a city-wide competition, but in terms of value to the business, I'd have put him either first, or a very close second.

Are we supposed to be this competitive already? All I was meaning to suggest was that Overcast go back to the "savors wine because he likes a bit of art in everything" style of posting and steer away from the "Economic analysis, humans are liabilities" mentality.
He's better at the former, in any case. Much more interesting posts.

Krylo · 03-16-2010, 09:10 PM

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I would have thought that the only superfluous one is Eels.

Probably! But Awakening came out, and I SHOULD be getting FFXIII about the time I finish playing through that, so it's not a huge deal if I end up bumped off.

I would be sad, though.

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Johann is valuable, because without him the Speakeasy would start losing customers and business.

Psssh. Arthur Goddamn MacCauly doesn't need nobody to tell him how to run his business.

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Not to mention that Adin's judgement doesn't seem to be too sound on matters of "Kill a foreign dude or slaughter a guy in this city and burn down his house".

Someone doesn't know much about 1920s America. Look up the St. Valentine's day massacre and how many people ended up in jail over it.

It took 13 years to catch ONE of the men responsible, and they couldn't even pin the slaughter on him. Had to pin killing the cop who finally found him on the guy to put him away.

Capone and Moran never heard a peep out of the cops, despite being the ones in charge of the operation.

Slaughtering a dude and burning down his Speakeasy would be almost completely safe.

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Are we supposed to be this competitive already?

I never meant to be competitive. I'm just giving you guys shit.

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All I was meaning to suggest was that Overcast go back to the "savors wine because he likes a bit of art in everything" style of posting and steer away from the "Economic analysis, humans are liabilities" mentality.
He's better at the former, in any case. Much more interesting posts.

Overcast is fine posting whatever he wants.

I like him.

Overcast · 03-16-2010, 09:24 PM

Eels is an enforcer. He is the guy people are scared of, the scum that will represent the gang at it's worst. He is a necessary person because SOMEONE has to get their hands dirty, and when you have one that not only wants to but is damn good at it then you let him play the scapegoat.

In the end Adin is going to be who he is. After all he has to play his role. So he will be answering exactly how he feels is right. Anything else would be against his character.

Like you too Krylo, meet you back in the laundry room after taps.

krogothwolf · 03-16-2010, 09:32 PM

Eel's also has that air about him, you can train people to be killers but you can't train the creepy that Eel has. He creeps everyone out.

mauve · 03-16-2010, 09:50 PM

I leave you people alone for five minutes and you're already trying to kill each other!

Can't we all just get along? Can't we just agree that you're all special snowflakes, all equally horrible in your own corrupted, twisted little unique ways? :p

03-16-2010, 03:36 PM	#11
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	Hmm, if it is three people in a room locked up it is definitely going to Eels, who probably has far more experience in closed quarters melee combat than any of them. If they are running around the city trying to kill I'd toss it between Adin and Eels with the competition being network of crime vs possible Rockstar Games protagonist. Really no matter which way I look Johann get's the screws. He is physically weak, he is noticeably foreign and thus easy to find, and his subtlety, typically his primary strength, would probably be worth absolutely nothing against Adin and Eels, the first who would shoot him on sight and eat him later, the second who might take his time and repeat the disposal technique. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

03-16-2010, 06:46 PM	#13
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	For the most part you have that any one of their asses could do that, Adin being probably the only one who would actually want to. The question is how does Johann stop the cops, Adin would use blackmail. Eels still has his genuine murderous intent. Johann is still a weak man who lost his powerful backer and I repeat that he is damn easy to find. Adin on the other hand is a master at blending in with people. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

03-16-2010, 06:47 PM	#14
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Obviously there is only one way to settle this argument. Mauve, Art only needs one of us. MAKE IT SO! (Though I admit to suggesting the closed room because it gave Eels the advantage) __________________ I am very tired.

03-16-2010, 09:24 PM	#18
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	Eels is an enforcer. He is the guy people are scared of, the scum that will represent the gang at it's worst. He is a necessary person because SOMEONE has to get their hands dirty, and when you have one that not only wants to but is damn good at it then you let him play the scapegoat. In the end Adin is going to be who he is. After all he has to play his role. So he will be answering exactly how he feels is right. Anything else would be against his character. Like you too Krylo, meet you back in the laundry room after taps. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

03-16-2010, 09:32 PM	#19
krogothwolf Fetched the Candy Cane! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary Posts: 4,278	Eel's also has that air about him, you can train people to be killers but you can't train the creepy that Eel has. He creeps everyone out. __________________ Knowledge is Power, Power is Knowledge ╔╦╦══╦══╦═╦══╦══╦╗╔╦╦╦╦══╦╗╔═╗ ║═╣╠═║╔╗║╔╣╔╗╠╗╔╣╚╝║║║║╔╗║║║═╣ ║║║╔╗╣╚╝║║║╚╝║║║║╔╗║║║║╚╝║╚╣╔╝ ╚╩╩╝╚╩══╩═╩══╝╚╝╚╝╚╩══╩══╩═╩╝

03-16-2010, 07:24 PM	#15
Red Mage Black Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Where the Sun isn't so warm. Posts: 2,673	I don't suppose Ben is a full time employee, is he? I can also imagine that he gets paid a good sum for whatever info he can get to the big man in charge. Especially if it concerns their current business in the back room. Guess I'll also need to know what info he does know and what information he should find out.

03-16-2010, 09:50 PM	#20
mauve So Dreamy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Someplace magical Posts: 6,863	I leave you people alone for five minutes and you're already trying to kill each other! Can't we all just get along? Can't we just agree that you're all special snowflakes, all equally horrible in your own corrupted, twisted little unique ways? :p __________________ Yoo Hoo!