Pok?mon Umbral Discussion 10: PvPing Inside and Outside the RP

[Dracorion]

Charlotte is, heh, appointed Pierce's second-in-command. She doesn't have to actually deal with the responsibility, but she can carry an arsenal with her for all Pierce cares. Plus? A giant room full of different Ursaring coats. Shiny, red, blue, orange, you name it, it's there and it's all real.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Menarker

But do note that I (and Renny) already noticed that you put two nominations and perhaps Rayleen too, so I would wonder why supplant Renny entirely when you could compromise with her choice and one other leader, such as yourself.

Renny would likely win. Pierce and Rayleen and perhaps Matt vote for him, Charlotte and perhaps Matt vote for Impact. And Rayleen wins because she's the boss.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Also entirely possible that someone might claim that Renny did have a gist of demostrating leadership in the past mission (such as Rachel or Lola since Rachel was the one who said that Renny would be leader for his group and Lola was present the entire time and Rachel reports to Rayleen.)

No one said Renny didn't show good leadership. But who hasn't?

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Originally Posted by Menarker
Also entirely possible that someone might claim that Renny did have a gist of demostrating leadership in the past mission (such as Rachel or Lola since Rachel was the one who said that Renny would be leader for his group and Lola was present the entire time and Rachel reports to Rayleen.)

Originally Posted by Geminex

If he were in any way qualified, if he had proven his capacity for leadership before, that'd be acceptable. But this does appear rather arbitrary.

I was remarking on Impact's statement that Renny had not proven his capability when he was the leader of a successful group in the just prior mission.

[Geminex]

Renny also suggested an anonymous vote. Rayleen could suggest that instead of having people publicly raise their hands or vote opinons which might lead to peer pressure or scorn, the classic paper ballot. Could be done OOC by PMing AB with your choice (so we can play mind-fuck games with each other on who to vote and have total freedom on who to vote), then AB posts what everyone voted in the discussion thread so the respective person can affirm or reject that was the person they chosen. (So AB doesn't get the exclusive excess to the votes, BM style like when he tried to vote Fighter away.)

If AB's gonna post the votes anyway, we can just say them out loud to begin with. An entirely secret ballot would be interesting, and I think AB's trustworthy enough not to screw Impact over (even more), but public is more practical. And, in this case, more fun.

Renny would likely win. Pierce and Rayleen and perhaps Matt vote for him, Charlotte and perhaps Matt vote for Impact. And Rayleen wins because she's the boss.

Gah. This is supposed to be PCs only, no? Or at least that's what I had hoped for.
And why would Pierce have voted for Renny? Impact may be a manipulative bastard, but at least he never hugged Pierce.

And I don't regret this one bit. This is the most fun I've had with this since we fought the Gendom. Though perhaps I should pre-emptively apologize to AB.
...
Yeah, I should definitely apologize to AB.

Edit:

I was remarking on Impact's statement that Renny had not proven his capability when he was the leader of a successful group in the just prior mission.

What Drac said still applies. Renny showed he was a good leader. But so did Impact. And even Pierce took a shot at it. So why Renny, of all people?

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Gah. This is supposed to be PCs only, no? Or at least that's what I had hoped for.
And why would Pierce have voted for Renny? Impact may be a manipulative bastard, but at least he never hugged Pierce.

Who's more likely to backstab everyone? Manipulative bastard Impact, or Renny?

Need I remind you that Renny is Renny.

And Rayleen gets a vote if Renny is nominated because she's the one that wanted him to be leader anyway and she's the boss.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Geminex

And why would Pierce have voted for Renny? Impact may be a manipulative bastard, but at least he never hugged Pierce.

At least I never seen a hug screw anyone over. Unless it was attached to something else like a signal ala Judas' infamous kiss on the cheek.

Originally Posted by Geminex

If AB's gonna post the votes anyway, we can just say them out loud to begin with. An entirely secret ballot would be interesting, and I think AB's trustworthy enough not to screw Impact over (even more), but public is more practical. And, in this case, more fun.

I meant that people can discuss or debate on who to vote for, but we could end up choosing whomever. Like Matt could make it seem like he would vote for Impact, but really vote for Pierce when he sends the PM to AB (SNEAKY). Otherwise, people might alter their votes if they knew who else was being voted for just because someone posted before the other. With the PM thing, post order doesn't influence anything.

[Astral Harmony]

Look, I have a very tight schedule this morning so I don't have time to read these pages full of wrath. But I can kinda see the main points behind them all.

You want additional upgrades? Fine, I'll do it. I honestly don't care how upgraded someone becomes, as long as they're not disappointed when I run out of ways to upgrade the classes in the future.

Second, Renny is the leader, and what is everyone complaining about? First off, it's not like you're always going to be as one team. Hell, that's what the NPCs are for. The group's going to be pretty split up more than half the time throughout the rest of the story, and that way everyone will get to flex their leadership muscle.

All I can say right now since I don't have time to read anything is that neither Rayleen nor myself played any favorites. Renny's the leader because I think he knows the best ways of utilizing everyone's individual talents. And he can give the right to command to anyone at anytime should the group be separated, which it very often will. He can also give it to anyone if the group is whole and he's just feeling that way.

Impact will be the second-in-command. If Renny's not there, Impact's the head bastard-in-charge. I'm sorry I can't stick around to read your rage and your proposals, but I must be getting ready for work. Just...I dunno, just give me time to try and make things as right as I can, though I know I'll never make it fully right.

And please don't revolt. I'd hate it if Renny was the only player character in the RP.

[Dracorion]

What? Sorry, I wasn't reading. I was thinking about what I'd do after I revolt and take over the RP.

Pierce gets his harem, Renny is downgraded to comedy relief/slave workforce, Impact gets killed by a Weedle.

And come on. We don't really need more upgrades right now. Save 'em for the next mission.

Anyway, I don't think it's so much wrath as indignation. And if we're going to be split up as often as you say, is Renny still always going to be the definite leader? (by the way, next split Renny should be paired up with Impact and Matt, because those three haven't got a chance to interact in a team up close together, which leaves Pierce with Charlotte. Just sayin')

[Menarker]

YES! We're BACK! ^^

Too bad I'm leaving for work RIGHT NOW. Be back soon!

[Dracorion]

It's about freaking time.

Anyway, I finished my made-up legendary and I'm thinking Renny's sidequest might be the best time to catch it. Unless someone else's sidequest takes place in a residential area. Because I can't picture this legendary in someone's pokeball, much less one of Faynoc's guys. Sure, it could be a second sidequest for Pierce, but Iit'd be a really short sidequest consisting of just the one fight because I'm chock out of ideas.

A bit of foreshadowing, mentioning murders in the area of Renny's parents' house would be nice. The victims showing signs ranging from sexual assault to burns to bruises to psychological torture (whatever the signs for that are), and the common link being a gaping hole in their chests where their hearts used to be (yes, this legendary eats your soul through your heart, because it can, and because I'm on a Blackest Night kick). This seems like a day mission, and it usually likes to operate at night, but we can just say it takes advantage of the confusion to get a snack.

Here's the profile:

Dark/Psychic (genderless)

Name: Enmakki

Stats

HP:120
Attack: 80
Defense: 100
Special Attack: 135
Special Defense: 120
Speed: 125
Total: 680

Appearance: Height: 4'0"; Weight: 73.7 lbs
Enmakki is literally a floating blob of darkness. It can shapeshift to become whatever it wants, albeit it'll still look made of darkness. When it has to take an original form, it takes a lion-like form with red eyes and an evil smile.

Personality: For as long as living beings have existed, Enmakki has fed on their souls. It doesn't actually need to eat souls, it just likes the taste. Especially the taste of human souls. Enmakki likes to play with its food before it eats, torturing it's victims with different methods ranging from physical torture to hallucinations to sexual assault, whatever will get the best reaction from the poor soul.

Ability: Magic Guard

HMs: All of them.

Custom Move: Dark Abyss (Status, 100% accuracy, does not make contact) ~ Inflicts Sleep and Nightmare on one target.

The name is tentative.

I've been debating doing kind of like a Diablos from Albert's FFVIII Rewrite kind of thing with it. "HAIL AND WELL MET, GRIEVOUS LORD" is just that awesome.

By the way, it can use Spore. Why? Because I want it to. We can justify it by saying the spores are just little motes of Enmakki making their way into the target's body and putting them to sleep.

[Geminex]

Sigh.

Very well, do what you will. I have stopped caring.

Though if it were a matter of pure... competence, I would gladly challenge Renny. Not in a standard PVP, mind you, there's not much strategy involved there, but a simulated situation with equal amounts of assets. Say, a 6v6? Thing is, what I've seen from Renny/Menarker so far is that they know a lot about the pokemon games and apply that well, but really, not a lot of planning, not all that much efficient resource allocation. I'm probably biased here, of course, and I said I didn't care, which I'll stick to. I'm fine with anything you do. But if we wanted an actual test, that is what I'd propose.

And if Renny's gonna be leader, I'd recommend that we retcon everything so he's older than 16. Because no matter how you approach it, that just doesn't work. I'd say 18 at the very least, and perhaps this can be his 19th birthday party.

Edit: And in regards to Drac's being of horror, perhaps the victims have also clawed their own eyeballs out. Hard to show psychological torture, otherwise.
Nice stats, by the way. Very nice. Bug types will rape you, though. Watch out for swarms of heracross. And I wouldn't give it spore. That'd be imbalanced. Spore was sorta nintendo's way of saying sorry for giving parasect shitty stats. And yes, shroomish could learn it too, but it had to put off evolving until level 47. And it's not thematically appropriate either. And besides, if you pokemon's moveset is specialized on killing sleeping opponents, giving it a 100% accuracy sleep attack would make things too easy, I feel.

But that's just my two cents...


So, what did everyone do during their pokemon-less time? I did a lot of reading and replayed pokemon ruby. Yes, not the newest, but I didn't want to start a new game in Pearl. My PC is named Asshat (after the great Asshat of times gone by), I have a Ninjask named Pirate and a male Gardevoir. Which I named "Whitney" anyway. Because fuck looking for another Ralts.

... Yeah, it's that kind of game.

Though abuse of the nickname system aside, I just beat the elite for with a team of 3 level 45s, and a non-trained Groudon, which is pretty good (I thought, anyway). Went through 20 hyper potions along the way, but that's ok. Swords dance/baton pass ninjask=Love. It dies a lot, but if you do it right you only get hit once, and then baton pass a two-stage attack boost and 1-stage speed boost to your physical sweeper. Which, in my case, was Blaziken. Pure love.