Jumping the gun: Batman in 2012 - Page 5

Mannix · 05-05-2010, 09:31 AM

I could see them going a couple of different ways, but the two that really stick out in my mind are:

1) They use the Riddler as a kind of anti-Joker. Instead of being all about chaos, Riddler is a scheming schemer scheming to control his little Gotham through various legal and illegal activities white-collar, blue-collar and otherwise.

2) They set Bane up as a chemistry batman to batman's technology batman; he becomes the new public hero, but unbeknownst to everybody, the chemicals Bane uses to enhance himself are eating away at his sanity and he becomes violent, committing several murders which are pinned on batman. batman solves the crime and clears his name, but in the final battle he barely escapes with his life, his back possibly broken kind of like in the comics, showing him that he isn't getting any younger and he needs start training an apprentice. the movie ends with him paying a visit to a kid orphaned by Bane.

Eldezar · 05-05-2010, 11:06 AM

I actually cannot remember if Two-Face officially died or if it was an off-screen death or something like that. I personally think Two-Face should not havbe been killed, simply captured or run-away, and that when Harvey became Two-Face the rest of his story went into the background until a later film. Kind of like what I thought was going to be done with Scarecrow, but to me it seemed like it was just thrown in to finish him off and keep people from wondering "Hey, scarecrow my come back halfway through the film."

Cuz you know, even though Batman generally fights one villain at a time, that also means he is not somewhere else fighting another villain. Maybe for some reason Batman left Harvey alone as he committed small crimes while building his own mafia because he still felt guilty for what happened to the guy, and at the end of the film or in another finally conclude the background plot. Granted, I may have my mind stuck in a different medium while working on play scripts and novels and everything is happening everywhere, and is a little bit difficult to do for the big screen.

I like the idea presented with how Harley could be rewritten, and would definitely like to see it made true.

Seil · 05-05-2010, 11:22 AM

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I actually cannot remember if Two-Face officially died or if it was an off-screen death or something like that.

***SPOILERS***

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Maybe for some reason Batman left Harvey alone as he committed small crimes while building his own mafia because he still felt guilty for what happened to the guy,

Batman had no idea Harvey had chosen to become Two-Face. After he defeats the Joker, Joker tells him that Two-Face is doing what he's doing. As soon as Batman learns that Harvey Dent is turning to crime, he goes after him.

Batman didn't know, and therefore didn't go after him. If he had known, he probably would've gone after Two-Face first, because if Dent's reputation was smeared by corruption, all the criminals that he locked up would've been let out until a new trial was scheduled.

That's what the whole speech at the end of the movie is about.

massive Dark Knight spoilers

Kim · 05-05-2010, 11:30 AM

Man, summa dat dialogue right there is SO BAD.

Meister · 05-05-2010, 11:40 AM

Dammit guys, spoilers.

e: vv That's what the tags are for, my good man.

Seil · 05-05-2010, 11:45 AM

Sorry. I did try to warn people.

bluestarultor · 05-05-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldezar

I like the idea presented with how Harley could be rewritten, and would definitely like to see it made true.

If it does, I will probably literally dance with glee.

On the other hand, despite being awesome, the comic fans would probably rip the whole movie a new one just because. Kind of an inverse Power Girl syndrome.

(For reference, Power Girl is actually a great character and the fans absolutely love her. It's just the people outside the audience who can't get past her logo.)

Aerozord · 05-05-2010, 01:14 PM

if they did use Robin, I think it would be an awesome change of pace to side-line the villians entirely. Make the movie about Batman and Robins development and only use the villians as a backdrop. For this someone like The Penguin would be good, Since he's a criminal with a legit front you could do a movie about them attempting to find evidence to prove he's even doing anything. Which could also be a good way to show Robin and Batman's differing viewpoints. Especially if you do a somewhat hot headed Robin that would rather punch crime in the throat then sneak around to gather information

Fifthfiend · 05-05-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Seil

Sorry. I did try to warn people.

In less time than it took to write "spoilers" you could have gone into those tags you use to wrap everything in that ghastly shade of pink and replaced that awful color choice with a pare of SSes, bada bing-bang-boom problem solved.

The Sevenshot Kid · 05-05-2010, 05:59 PM

It doesn't matter to me anymore who the villain is as long as he wears some actual tights. They would be the one thing that could really intimidate Batman. If you were Batman, would you try and tackle a guy in brightly colored tights?

05-05-2010, 09:31 AM	#41
Mannix Tenacious C Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 991	I could see them going a couple of different ways, but the two that really stick out in my mind are: 1) They use the Riddler as a kind of anti-Joker. Instead of being all about chaos, Riddler is a scheming schemer scheming to control his little Gotham through various legal and illegal activities white-collar, blue-collar and otherwise. 2) They set Bane up as a chemistry batman to batman's technology batman; he becomes the new public hero, but unbeknownst to everybody, the chemicals Bane uses to enhance himself are eating away at his sanity and he becomes violent, committing several murders which are pinned on batman. batman solves the crime and clears his name, but in the final battle he barely escapes with his life, his back possibly broken kind of like in the comics, showing him that he isn't getting any younger and he needs start training an apprentice. the movie ends with him paying a visit to a kid orphaned by Bane. __________________ Dangerous, mute lunatic.

05-05-2010, 11:06 AM	#42
Eldezar Ferbawlz! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 665	I actually cannot remember if Two-Face officially died or if it was an off-screen death or something like that. I personally think Two-Face should not havbe been killed, simply captured or run-away, and that when Harvey became Two-Face the rest of his story went into the background until a later film. Kind of like what I thought was going to be done with Scarecrow, but to me it seemed like it was just thrown in to finish him off and keep people from wondering "Hey, scarecrow my come back halfway through the film." Cuz you know, even though Batman generally fights one villain at a time, that also means he is not somewhere else fighting another villain. Maybe for some reason Batman left Harvey alone as he committed small crimes while building his own mafia because he still felt guilty for what happened to the guy, and at the end of the film or in another finally conclude the background plot. Granted, I may have my mind stuck in a different medium while working on play scripts and novels and everything is happening everywhere, and is a little bit difficult to do for the big screen. I like the idea presented with how Harley could be rewritten, and would definitely like to see it made true. __________________ Patreon Stuff! https://www.patreon.com/NPCProductionCompany

05-05-2010, 11:30 AM	#44
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Man, summa dat dialogue right there is SO BAD. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

05-05-2010, 01:14 PM	#48
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	if they did use Robin, I think it would be an awesome change of pace to side-line the villians entirely. Make the movie about Batman and Robins development and only use the villians as a backdrop. For this someone like The Penguin would be good, Since he's a criminal with a legit front you could do a movie about them attempting to find evidence to prove he's even doing anything. Which could also be a good way to show Robin and Batman's differing viewpoints. Especially if you do a somewhat hot headed Robin that would rather punch crime in the throat then sneak around to gather information __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

05-05-2010, 11:40 AM	#45
Meister Pure joy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 10,689	Dammit guys, spoilers. e: vv That's what the tags are for, my good man.

05-05-2010, 11:45 AM	#46
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	Sorry. I did try to warn people.