Fullmetal Alchemist - Page 15

ZAKtheGeek · 06-15-2010, 08:14 PM

King Bradley drops some good loot.

And main characters can't be possessed or have their "spirits overtaken." They just can't. Is there a trope for that? There should be a trope for that.

Lithp · 06-16-2010, 04:49 PM

Actually, Kimbley stopped Pride. They very much can be overtaken. It happened to Al.

As to the fight with Godfather, I really don't care if they shorten it. It was 3 chapters of explosions & pointless attacks. Not up to snuff for FMA's usual.

ZAKtheGeek · 06-16-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lithp

Actually, Kimbley stopped Pride.

That's exactly what I'm talking about!

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They very much can be overtaken. It happened to Al.

When? As I recall, his soul was absent?

Lithp · 06-17-2010, 12:12 AM

I don't remember, but there's also the fact that Father damn near rips their souls out for Phiosophers Stones later on.

And why would you count being stopped by extraneous circumstances?

ZAKtheGeek · 06-17-2010, 08:51 PM

I'm not sure what you're talking about and I'm not sure you know what I'm talking about. I'm just saying that I notice a pattern where if there's any villainous defeating of spirit in a fairly literal sense (such as suppressing a mind within its own body) then even though faceless shmucks tend to get instapwned by this technique, main and especially "hero" characters get portrayed as being in some big struggle that they usually manage not to ever conclusively lose. See also: Stargate.

And, of course, even more predictably, you get those "interfere at a critical moment" events where the hero screws up the villain right when they don't need it most. Oh no, such an unfortunate weakness! I wonder how it never seemed to matter before.

Really, it's just a subset of the broad hero's advantage that even I'm getting tired of hearing me talk about.

Lithp · 06-17-2010, 09:26 PM

It's official. TV Tropes ruined your life.

ZAKtheGeek · 06-17-2010, 09:43 PM

:^(

I think you can end any discussion on NPF with that...

Edit: Also, see Code Geass for a great subversion...

...

:^(

Lithp · 06-17-2010, 11:15 PM

NPF?

Also, I hate Code Geass. It comes across to me as trying to cram in as many Tropes as humanly possible. >.>

ZAKtheGeek · 06-18-2010, 10:04 PM

Nuklear Power Forums?

I like to think Code Geass does not screw up intentionally. That makes it so much more amusing.

What the hell are we talking about here? Oh yeah. I think Charles would make a good emperor for Xing.

Lithp · 06-20-2010, 12:52 AM

Dude, I stopped watching after like 5 episodes, not including individual episodes of R2 I saw in no particular order. The original story was promising, but then it became another Giant Mecha show. To me, at least. I really can't have a discussion with you about that.

06-15-2010, 08:14 PM	#141
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	King Bradley drops some good loot. And main characters can't be possessed or have their "spirits overtaken." They just can't. Is there a trope for that? There should be a trope for that. __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months.

06-16-2010, 04:49 PM	#142
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Actually, Kimbley stopped Pride. They very much can be overtaken. It happened to Al. As to the fight with Godfather, I really don't care if they shorten it. It was 3 chapters of explosions & pointless attacks. Not up to snuff for FMA's usual. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

06-17-2010, 12:12 AM	#144
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	I don't remember, but there's also the fact that Father damn near rips their souls out for Phiosophers Stones later on. And why would you count being stopped by extraneous circumstances? __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

06-17-2010, 08:51 PM	#145
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	I'm not sure what you're talking about and I'm not sure you know what I'm talking about. I'm just saying that I notice a pattern where if there's any villainous defeating of spirit in a fairly literal sense (such as suppressing a mind within its own body) then even though faceless shmucks tend to get instapwned by this technique, main and especially "hero" characters get portrayed as being in some big struggle that they usually manage not to ever conclusively lose. See also: Stargate. And, of course, even more predictably, you get those "interfere at a critical moment" events where the hero screws up the villain right when they don't need it most. Oh no, such an unfortunate weakness! I wonder how it never seemed to matter before. Really, it's just a subset of the broad hero's advantage that even I'm getting tired of hearing me talk about. __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months.

06-17-2010, 09:26 PM	#146
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	It's official. TV Tropes ruined your life. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

06-17-2010, 09:43 PM	#147
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	:^( I think you can end any discussion on NPF with that... Edit: Also, see Code Geass for a great subversion... ... :^( __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months. Last edited by ZAKtheGeek; 06-17-2010 at 09:51 PM.

06-17-2010, 11:15 PM	#148
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	NPF? Also, I hate Code Geass. It comes across to me as trying to cram in as many Tropes as humanly possible. >.> __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

06-18-2010, 10:04 PM	#149
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	Nuklear Power Forums? I like to think Code Geass does not screw up intentionally. That makes it so much more amusing. What the hell are we talking about here? Oh yeah. I think Charles would make a good emperor for Xing. __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months.

06-20-2010, 12:52 AM	#150
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Dude, I stopped watching after like 5 episodes, not including individual episodes of R2 I saw in no particular order. The original story was promising, but then it became another Giant Mecha show. To me, at least. I really can't have a discussion with you about that. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)