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Unread 06-30-2010, 10:54 AM   #71
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I watch a lot of movies. I pretty much watch every movie that comes out that isn't wholesome family fun. Hell, I just watched Day and Knight for fuck's sake.

It's only like 20 bucks or something. Its not like my children will starve. (I have no children FYI.)
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Unread 06-30-2010, 12:41 PM   #72
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That would be like getting rid of the giant squid-alien in Watchman. You just can't do it man!
Are you being faceitious?

Anyway, about the discussion of filler that I apparently missed, the thing is that a lot of the filler actually had a point to it. For instance, all of the episodes from Season 3 that are being deemed unnecessary were really the first to show the Fire Nation s people, as opposed to Card Carrying Villains. Oh sure, before that, you had a few goodies, like Jong-Jong & that one Fire Sage, but they were the minority.

Season 3 really gets into the whole idea about the public & how the war was sold to them.

As for what culture the Earthbenders were, they're based off of China.
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Unread 06-30-2010, 12:42 PM   #73
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I watch a lot of movies. I pretty much watch every movie that comes out that isn't wholesome family fun. Hell, I just watched Day and Knight for fuck's sake.

It's only like 20 bucks or something. Its not like my children will starve. (I have no children FYI.)
Conversely It's twenty dollars and ninety minutes you could spend on something actually enjoyable....
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Unread 06-30-2010, 12:43 PM   #74
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Conversely It's twenty dollars and ninety minutes you coukd spend on something actually enjoyable....
I am an angry old man, I don't actually enjoy anything except listening to Baseball games on my transistor radio and complaining.
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Unread 06-30-2010, 01:08 PM   #75
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Anyway, about the discussion of filler that I apparently missed, the thing is that a lot of the filler actually had a point to it. For instance, all of the episodes from Season 3 that are being deemed unnecessary were really the first to show the Fire Nation s people, as opposed to Card Carrying Villains. Oh sure, before that, you had a few goodies, like Jong-Jong & that one Fire Sage, but they were the minority.

Season 3 really gets into the whole idea about the public & how the war was sold to them.
While I agree that the Fire Nation needed to be fleshed out, the fact still stands that most of the episodes shunted off the Fire Nationers to the sidelines so that the episode could focus on repeating storylines from the first season.

Painted Lady = Imprisoned (Katara sidetracks the Gaang so that she can indulge in her savior complex)
The Puppetmaster = Jet (Katara gets enamored with someone until it's revealed that their methods for fighting the Fire Nation are too severe)
Sokka's Master = Bullshit (Seriously, after two seasons where Sokka has shown himself to be an integral part of the group, he gets butthurt when he can't put out an isolated fire and decides he needs a shiny new sword for some reason?)

And when they weren't repeating old characterizations, we get meandering little Adventure Town plots like The Runaway or The Headband, which wouldn't be so bad except for the fact that they keep bringing up how they need to get focused and buckle down because the comet is so close, ostensibly implying some dramatic deadline that gets undercut because the characters never act like they need to save the world anytime soon.

And all that without mentioning the kids they subsumed into the Gaang after the eclipse who then never talked.
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Unread 06-30-2010, 01:17 PM   #76
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Well first things first. I'm an unlucky one who will see it thanks to my dad (He never saw the show.) My preemptive opinion even though I haven't seen it yet. THOSE CANON RAPING SONS OF BITCHES! Warning:thoughts of the movie and its makers may change Now that that is out of the way. Let's look at what the main actors did before the movie.

Nicola Peltz AKA Katara: A Christmas movie. Oh and a Miley Cyrus music video.
Jackson Rathbone AKA Sokka: A Cullen from Twilight. The Cullen the Spoony One compared to a chihuahua.
Noah Ringer AKA Aang: NOTHING!
Dev Patel AKA Zuko: Slumdog Millionaire.

In other words when your best actor is the villain there's a problem.
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Unread 06-30-2010, 01:23 PM   #77
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Roger Ebert doesn't like it.
I disagree about his assesment of the kind of actor needed for Zuko, but he's spot on for Ozai, Ozai should be the Hammiest Ham in the history of pork.If he thinks Avatar is post-apocalyptic, something went wrong
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Unread 06-30-2010, 04:01 PM   #78
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A.V. Club gave it an F too, which is actually somewhat rare for them. (I mean, sure, Jonah Hex got an F recently, but Grown Ups escaped with just a D-)
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I disagree about his assesment of the kind of actor needed for Zuko, but he's spot on for Ozai, Ozai should be the Hammiest Ham in the history of pork.
I dunno, I think in the absence of good characterization or compelling story, as you have here, it's probably best to go with the G.I. Joe route: All of the heroes are stoic and straightfaced, even when they're sucking the memories out of a dead guy's brain after he was killed in the crossfire of their super mecha suit Paris fight, while the bad guys awareness of how ridiculous the movie is can be measured in evil cackles.

Otherwise both sides are acting like the movie isn't bad and forces the audience to actively acknowledge it.
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Yeah, I've seen similar assumptions on other reviews, but it doesn't seem to be a universal (mis)conception. Maybe they fucked with the opening, or the mixed animal fauna gave them the wrong impression (there are still mixed animals, right?).
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Unread 06-30-2010, 06:52 PM   #79
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just thinking, did they just ruin the true nature of fire bending? Wasn't the reason they can generate their own because "fire is life" and thus they are all their own source of fire
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Unread 06-30-2010, 07:18 PM   #80
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it's probably best to go with the G.I. Joe route: All of the heroes are stoic and straightfaced, even when they're sucking the memories out of a dead guy's brain after he was killed in the crossfire of their super mecha suit Paris fight, while the bad guys awareness of how ridiculous the movie is can be measured in evil cackles.
No. No no no no no no no no no no no. Nothing can excuse G.I. Joe. 'Nothing' in triple-bold all-caps red underlined and italic font.

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In other words when your best actor is the villain there's a problem.
Or, again, if you're going to cast unknowns at least have them look like the characters they are supposed to be portraying. Asif Mandvi's 'culturally-diverse' world excuse is a cop-out - either he doesn't care enough to pay attention or he doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of anyone who gave him a job.
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