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Unread 07-01-2010, 03:10 AM   #121
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They do? I had the impression that they just bended the air that's... always everywhere around.
That actually makes sense . I always thought they made air out of...air (i.e. nothing) like the firebenders.

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I'm not saying that it's not way unbalanced to nerf the firebenders like that, though.
Yeah, isn't that "you can create your own fire" one of the things that made the fire nation dangerous? They have technology too so, if they can build a giant drill-thing, they should be able to get a pocket fire creating gizmo.

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Unread 07-01-2010, 03:11 AM   #122
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It was just like a single serving version of the drill they used at Ba... Ba-sing... Ba...zing... Ba... fuck.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 03:12 AM   #123
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Unread 07-01-2010, 03:17 AM   #124
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Yeah, isn't that "you can create your own fire" one of the things that made the fire nation dangerous?.
Eh, not really, because if I want to kick a firebender in the nuts bad enough, he's getting kicked in the nuts
Airbender: Float away!
Earthbender: rock wall!
Waterbender: Ice wall! Tidal Wave!
Firebender: FIRE! He dodged it! FIRE! He dodged it.. Oh I know! FIREWALL!.......THICK CLOTHES! CRAP!
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They have technology too so, if they can build a giant drill-thing, they should be able to get a pocket fire creating gizmo
This, the evil overlords, and Sozin's comet is what got them their power.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 03:31 AM   #125
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Eh, not really, because if I want to kick a firebender in the nuts bad enough, he's getting kicked in the nuts
Airbender: Float away!
Earthbender: rock wall!
Waterbender: Ice wall! Tidal Wave!
Firebender: FIRE! He dodged it! FIRE! He dodged it.. Oh I know! FIREWALL!.......THICK CLOTHES! CRAP!
Still, at least the waterbender should have a water source nearby, and once that water is gone, no more waterbending. I know there are other ways for getting water but, I don't think they use them often.

The earthbenders have it easier, there's a reason this planet is called Earth :P.

Airbending seems to be more on the defensive side.

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This, the evil overlords, and Sozin's comet is what got them their power.
IIRC, it gave them an extra power boost. The pocket gizmo is for the movie firebenders because fire isn't like water, air or earth; you cannot find it under "normal" circumstances.

What I don't get is how could the movie's crippled firebenders beat the other tribes without a way to create fire by themselves. They're not as dangerous as the anime (?) firebenders since they need fire, an element that isn't easily found, waiting to be "bended" like the other 3
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Unread 07-01-2010, 03:34 AM   #126
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Still, at least the waterbender should have a water source nearby, and once that water is gone, no more waterbending. I know there are other ways for getting water but, I don't think they use them often.
That's the point though, each bending style has an achilles heel,
Fire: All offense, no deffense
Air: All defense, no offense
Water: Must add water
Earth: must add rocks


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IIRC, it gave them an extra power boost. The pocket gizmo is for the movie firebenders because fire isn't like water, air or earth; you cannot find it under "normal" circumstances.

What I don't get is how could the movie's crippled firebenders beat the other tribes without a way to create fire by themselves. They're not as dangerous as the anime (?) firebenders since they need fire, an element that isn't easily found, waiting to be "bended" like the other 3
What I mean is their ability to generate their own element wasn't what put them in charge in the first place, but all the other factors, such as their technology, and Sozin's comet. I also find it interesting that noone else got in a conquering mood, but that's probably because Kyoshi beat that notion out of the Earth Kingdom's head.

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Unread 07-01-2010, 05:22 AM   #127
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I figured this thread was just three pages of bullshit race problems because that's what it boiled down to last time and thas what it looked like happened here. Like, this forum is usually super predictable in how things work, so I figured Hey, whatevz, no reason to read it.
Well, no one had seen it yet so we were all sort of just speculating. But uh, yeah just to confirm your assessment:

This movie was terrible in almost every way. The whole theater cheered at the opening title, and a total of 4 people in the back row clapped for about 3/4ths of a second when it was over. I'm pretty sure there was some mild booing too but it was mostly a kind of saddened silence at the utter let down. Pretty unique movie-going experience, especially for a sold-out midnight premier.

Premonitions if you want to lecture everyone on the whole racisim thing I say go for it. Whereas Avatar was debatable IMO, this was like some massively inexcusable bullshit. What the hell are you harping on about the bending for that was like the least of this movie's problems! I mean damn. DAMN. Like, I was all like 'benefit of the doubt over here' but UGH. UGH UGH UGH.

5 Highlights from this movie;

1) 3D is awful and pointless still .
2) Bad writing is bad. Bad directing is worse.
3) This is movie is racist as I don't know what but it is HELLA racist.
4) Random mispronunciation of EVERY proper noun?!?!?!
5) Even a movie THIS awful cannot ruin Uncle Iroh. (Shaun Toub actually made his role work, somehow, in this mess of a film.)

So on the directing/writing/ acting: The kids in this were, eh, fine. But the dialog at literally any given point was either stilted, repetitive, blatant, or completely out of place. Sometimes all at once. I can't believe the entire main cast was the exact same level of terrible, so I'm thinking this is a sign of awful directing and writing. I have no idea how they put this thing together. It wasn't even a re-telling of the first season it was like... Like they took random 5 minute clips from every episode of the first season, took out everything remotely clever or enjoyable about those clips and mashed them together into 2 hours. Terrible or non-existent characterization and dialog, abuse of narration, and loads of other issues.

Katarra: "Aang, you're angry!" Aang: "... I'm angry!"

Yue: "We believe in our beliefs just as much as they believe in their believing beliefs that they believe in!"

Me:"ARRRGRGG SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!"

I also liked that literally anyone important, not even just the main protagonists, in this movie were white. Except for Princess Yue who fills the role of 'magical negro' here, and even that was poorly conceived. I mean, what? Katarra and Sokka are the only white people in their village? REALLY? I thought maybe this 'culturally diverse' world would mean that we'd see an actual mix of races in each nation and that would maybe in some way excuse the casting of white people as the main protagonists. Nope. The southern water tribe is a helpless group of Eskimos. The earth villages are portrayed by an all-Asian cast. These equally helpless dirt-farmers, despite their obvious ability to defeat the weak-ass fire nation soldiers guarding them, for some reason, needed Aang to inspire them to rebellion. No Jet, No Kyoshi warriors. EDIT: No Boomy!

I had some hope at this point for the Northern Water Tribe. That we might see some important characters played by someone other than white people. Nope!

The film is inconsistent in it's determination on whether the different nations are made up of an ethnically mixed group of people or not, but very consistent in it's portrayal of colored people as pathetic or evil.

Iroh is still awesome. The one saving grace.

PS: I would be surprised if they can justify a sequel to this, let alone an entire trilogy. Let me just reiterate: Even if the racisim thing doesn't bother you or you think it's debatable whatever. This movie was flat-out terrible and is in no way a good companion to the series. Don't see it.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 09:54 AM   #128
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...I feel terrible for any true fans of the original anime.
(Fortunately, I am not one of them.)
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Unread 07-01-2010, 10:04 AM   #129
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...I feel terrible for any true fans of the original anime.
Don't. The series is fine by itself and although I a bummed at being out 28 dollars for a really bad movie, I'm gonna be just fine re-watching the show.

I feel bad for anyone whose interest in 'Avatar' was sparked by the film and will likely NOT watch the show now becuase the movie was so damned awful.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 10:08 AM   #130
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I've been constantly reminding myself and everyone around me how horrible this movie is going to be. It's not going to be enough, is it?

As a reference point, would you rather watch The Last Airbender or any Twilight movie?
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