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Unread 07-02-2010, 11:14 PM   #201
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Iroh came across with this fantastically strong personality, really an Obi-wan or protective Uncle feel to him and since that's just what he was, it was perfect. I enjoyed everything about him, especially towards the end of the movie.
Most people say that Shaun Taub was pretty much the only good thing about the movie. But I don't really think there's any version of Iroh that isn't at least mildly awesome.

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Aang was too old and not nearly as playful as I was expecting, but despite the terrible casting here, he did fantastic with being convincing in his role- and Shaymalayakamehameha did some great scene cuts at the end that made most of the group I was with actually tear up a little bit. [expecting insults with this line quoted.] Aang wasn't perfect but the actor salvaged the role very well.
See, now, If you knew nothing about the source, I don't see how you were expecting Aang to be playful as all the trailers beforehand were playing up the serious business, you'd have had to know the show to understand Aang's little-kidness


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Katara's brother I can't even remember his name but he was such a mook in the film, excepting 1 time, with the boomerang toss, that I have nothing good to say about him.
Which is just all kinds of shameful considering how awesome Sokka is

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The shot of Zuko's sister was really fuckin' impressive. She was in the film for maybe two scenes, probably not more then 5 minutes of screen time total at all- and she managed to leave a serious intimidation factor that goes beyond "Oh, she's a little girl, that means she can probably kill everyone in the room." (I have since had it confirmed that, yes, she probably can.)
Like Iroh, I don't think there's any version of Azula that doesn't scream Totally evil and totally awesome

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As for the plot, it was a hacked together conglomeration of Book 1 or whatever, and despite taking out a lot of filler and a lot of great story tokens ((Like changing Zuko's fight with Katara from something long and epic into "whoops looked like I knocked your ass out, my bad!" which I got to watch on MariusTwilight's computer when I got home, and holy shit guys that was so much better then what we got in the movie))
One good thing about this movie is it might make more avatar fans for me to nerd it up with.

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But overall the story does it's job of telling what's going on and where we can expect Book 2 and Book 3 to go. M Night is already on record saying he wants to do / is already doing those, right? Because just dropping the issue at book 1 and not finishing everything would be horrible at this point
Eragon is to your left, Golden Compass to your right.

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Unread 07-02-2010, 11:16 PM   #202
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Yeah I'm definitely not moving to Toronto anymore. Dear god man there's just no words anymore.

That was actually among the worst acting I've ever seen. Iroh wasn't a good actor, he barely has any lines. The lines he does have are totally generic. The god damn EYE CLOSE UP ARGH WHAT THE HELL! Seriously the entire theater burst into laughter at that moment.


Also, like, oh my god. This movie better tank so hard, there better not be a sequel. Not even mentioning the fact that Book 2 and 3 are kind of borked due to certain directions he took and information he left out, I now pray daily the studios involved pull the plug.

With my luck, of course, he'll just patch all the holes he's created with a text splash, or maybe some more fantastically terrible exposition.

Edit: For the record I thought Shaun Toub's portrayal of Iroh was awful. As far as pure acting merits, he was more bearable than the others, but only because he didn't really say much. Dev Patel acted well, but clearly had nothing to work with. Even the dude that played COmmander Zhao acted well, maybe the best out of everyone, but his character was absolutely butchered and idiotic.
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Unread 07-02-2010, 11:21 PM   #203
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Yeah, Preminitions, on that last note, why would that be "horrible"? Shamallama has nothing of value to contribute to this story.

And about those changes...what would he DO if he got ahold of Azula? Make her more sympathetic? Emphasize her mommy issues at the expense of her competence? Cut her appearances dramatically?

I have no confidence that he'd handle her well. Katara had ONE scene where she shows how skilled she is & he fucked that one right up.

And this isn't just me bitching because it's an adaptation. I've seen most of the Harry Potter films, the Watchmen film, & I watch anime, which is, by definition, an adaptation. Sometimes, I think the adaptations handle things better than the original. There ARE adaptations that are just plain bad, y'know?
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Unread 07-02-2010, 11:25 PM   #204
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@Prem: I had a quick build up on my way in from my friend who watched the show saying "Aang should be young, probably grabbed an older actor for the part so let's hope for 12 or 13, and he should be hyper and playful and talkative." And those aren't things he was- but he did hold a childish aspect even in serious shots that got some point across- I would have killed to see Penguin Sledding though!

I also got a lot of talk-down after the movie from Anime-Friend who didn't hate this movie but wouldn't go so far as to say he liked it either that gave me some counter-material that I've been mulling over.


Edit: Also I suppose I should keep this to myself but Golden Compass I enjoyed too.

Eragon can go fuck itself with a tractor though, just like Twilight.
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Unread 07-02-2010, 11:59 PM   #205
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Okay, my only major complaint is stop calling it anime. Despite the obvious influences, it's a completely American-produced cartoon. Also:

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Unread 07-03-2010, 12:08 AM   #206
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Possibly the best review of this movie ever hands down.

I love this guy...
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Unread 07-03-2010, 12:11 AM   #207
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Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own.
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I get it's Simpsons, and I know that's Krusty's monkey, but I don't get what it has to do with anything
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I'm one of those people who doesn't usually call anime "Anime" because I have the word Cartoon in the language I speak( which might be somewhat douchey of me now that I think of it) and I wouldn't call Breasts Oppai just because they're on a japanese woman, so I can't hold that against him, really.

One of the great things about the series in that regard is it wasn't

"Oh, let's just throw some asian-y trappings completely devoid of context on to make it "exotic""

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"Let's be respectful enough,and intelligent enough to realize us two White guys making this very asian thing need to hire consultants on chinese calligraphy, music, and even an ACTUAL KUNG-FU MASTER to coach everyone on the materials beng drawn from so it is both accurate and cool"
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Unread 07-03-2010, 12:15 AM   #208
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I get it's Simpsons, and I know that's Krusty's monkey, but I don't get what it has to do with anything
You're overthinking it hardcore. You're looking for specifics in something that is more of a broad expression.
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Unread 07-03-2010, 12:21 AM   #209
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Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own. Premmy did away with the unicorn requirement and straight up farts rainbows on their own.
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Okay we've got a Monkey wearing a suit and looking all proffessional, in response to 'I'm not a troll"

A Monkey in a business suit is still a monkey, are you saying that a troll who says he isn't is still a troll?

Are you calling him stupid like a monkey?

Dressing up a monkey is kinda like dressing up something that's still not good for dressing up. Am I close?

A Monkey in a suit is an inherently paradoxical concept, are you implying that Nikose not trolling is impossible?
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Unread 07-03-2010, 12:23 AM   #210
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Still overthinking it.
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