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Unread 07-05-2010, 05:50 PM   #11
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Yep. Matthias is the only other one that Enmakki could attempt to manipulate toward world domination, and that's only because we don't know anything about the bastard.

I gotta say, Renny does come off extremely unlikable when he gets all up on his high horse. Or moral high ground.

You can accept that there was nothing they could do for Kurika at the time, or be outraged and immediately rush to help her.

But you can't accept what happened to her, be outraged and stand and watch her burn.
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Unread 07-05-2010, 06:03 PM   #12
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It's the fact that they ordered her through the fire when there was no particular need to do so. That they sent her through for the sake of an extra attacker and nothing more. There was no "switch behind the fire" that needed pressing to turn the battle around. There was no magical macguffin that needed retrieving in person to foil the bad guy's plans. It's like she was sent as cannon fodder. Effective one but expendable. Renny obviously don't like that!

The reason why she was sent out in the first place was to take Impact's place when he was knocked out. But there wasn't any reason why she had to become a victim of her own attack, knowing in advance what it would do to her, especially if she could have used Prime to double her rage generaation upon getting hit or her using an item from Impact's stash perhaps or something like that.

It makes perfect sense what Renny was feeling. And all he did was apologize and admit he didn't know why she was given the order she was given. And ask why she felt so strongly about following the order in the first place. The other part of the apology, he didn't say, lest it cause unneeded friction or hardship to her or the group, and because the situation had gotten so intense, that if it wasn't contained, more people would have been in danger. (and she had consented to her orders, even if he felt it was a stupid one.)

Renny would have helped her if he had any water pokemons left. But they were knocked out at the time. But it still doesn't help that the orders frankly marked her as a victim for little benefit than a single slayer attack.

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Unread 07-05-2010, 06:12 PM   #13
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Well, in my defense, it was Impact that gave the order. Hell, I wasn't even online at the time!

Still, Renny? High horse. Even if he is right.

But Pierce will probably be apologizing to Kurika if he gets a chance.
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Unread 07-05-2010, 06:21 PM   #14
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Well, against your defense, Pierce was more than eager to continue the fight when it was interrupted, potentially prolonging the situation and making it worse. ^^;

Renny didn't blame anyone specifically (much in line with your defense). He mainly expressed to Kurika his sympathy, not knowing how to explain it, and trying to help her out. He is one of the higher ranking members of the group, (feels a sense of responsibility) and he can't explain to her why she was given the particular order she was given. He knows that the situation was intense and that people weren't ignoring her out of malice (or so he thinks). But that she had such a misfortune was indeed regretable. The only thing that makes Renny high-horse like at all is that he thinks that it could have been prevented and that the order was morally and tactically questionable. (And you think that he is right on that.)

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Unread 07-05-2010, 06:42 PM   #15
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Pierce doesn't like it when some bitches show up and steal his kills.

Well, no that's not it exactly. Pierce doesn't like it when some bitches show up and steal his win. He's okay with teammates getting his kills.
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Unread 07-06-2010, 12:17 AM   #16
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Hey, Drac, just out of conversation sake, what ideas or plans do you have in mind for your custom item and for your ability switch for when you hit Breeder level 1?
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I'm not sure, actually.

The custom item will probably be a flaming sword for Blaziken. I don't know if I'll be switching Blaziken's or Metagross' ability.
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Alright... let's just pretend you could do both. What would be your options for which ability you would be switching for Blaziken and which one you would be switching for Metagross? (Although Metagross's ability is pretty good in itself)

I'll be interested especially in what you'll consider for your Blaziken, since it's ability is basically a fire version of what Swampert has at the moment and they are both attack based fighters to a certain degree.
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Unread 07-06-2010, 07:39 AM   #19
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Well hell, I hadn't really considered any abilities.

I just checked and I don't think I'll be changing their abilities at all. No good candidates. I could make up an ability for Blaziken, of course, but I'm not going to do that.

I suppose I could switch Dialga's ability, but I don't think there are any good candidates for that either. Or, rather, there are, but they're all silly generic stuff.

I'm beginning to wonder if Ability Shift is a worthwhile upgrade at all. What're your ideas for your Ability Shifts, Menarker?
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Well, when I proposed the idea of Huge Power for Swampert or Flower Gift for Shaymin, you know what happened. :3

Anyhow, the following is all hypothetical. I'm mainly focusing on specific abilities that work with specific pokemons, because just about everyone could benefit from ones like Inner Focus to prevent Flinching and Immunity to prevent poison and such.

I think the next best in my case would be Levitate for Magnezone. I mean, permanently remove a quad weakness without taking up a move slot (Magnet Rise) or a turn casting it.

Basically, Swampert's ability sucks because AB never really informs us when a pokemon is specifically at the hitpoint level when it would trigger. If it was always active (only for water moves), it would be damn neat.

Huge/Pure Power is thematically appropriate (just like it would for Blaziken) but gaining 110 attack stats is overkill to Gem.

"Guts" increases its attack by 50% (still quite a lot) when a pokemon is inflicted with a status condition, ignoring attack reduction from burn. That's pretty good until you realize that several of the conditions prevent you from attacking in the first place such as sleep, paralysis sometimes and confusion (higher attack makes hitting yourself WORSE). Burn and Poison however makes it more of a beast. This ability is more specific for... Ursauring (Paging Bard.) With its high Attack Power, the Guts ability which increases it by half, and the move Facade which has a power of 140 when you're inflicted with a status condition on top of STAB (Facade is normal type, just like Ursauring) and you practically got a super powered Giga Impact you can spam every turn so long as your status condition isn't stopping you from attacking. Hell, it could equip the Flame Orb intentionally to give itself burn status. Guts prevent the attack drop of burn, so you'd only lose a little bit of health every turn. Either way, it's situational, but potentially useful for Swampert or Blaziken.

A even more situational one might be "Damp" which does nothing except ensure that no one can use Self-Destruct Moves, friend or foe. It's a life-saver in the very select situation that it is present though.

Another situational one would be "Hydration" which clears up status conditions when it is raining (although doesn't prevents it, so stuff like flinch would still happen).

Rain Dish seems odd on a Swampert, but not terribly out of place assuming something like water absorbing skin. Acts like Leftovers, but I hardly think AB take those in consideration much anyways.

Dry Skin is similar, but more health gained when hit by a water move, but lose health during sunny day, which shouldn't apply thematically since Swampert is partly ground type.

Swift Swim doubles its speed and thus its crit rate during rain, but Swampert's speed is its worst point at below average.

Water Absorb... useful for sure, but not so sure about whether it is thematically appropriate. Ah well.



Shaymin's Serene Grace in Flying Form is awesome. But Land Form's Natural Cure... is not. Thought of Flower Gift since it's thematically appropriate and such.

A very risky alternative for either form is Solar-Power which increases its Special Attack Stat by 50% (gain 50 Special Attack at least!) when it is in Sunny Day but drain its health by 25% every turn that ability is activated.

The ability Chlorophyll doubles the speed of it during Sunny Day. Shaymin has 100 speed in land form and 127 in Flying form, so that would increase its critical hit ability drastically.

"Leaf Guard" is the same as Hydration but actually prevents status conditions as opposed to healing it during sunny weather.


For your Blaizken , Flame Body would be neat. Adds a 30% chance of burning a foe that hits it with melee moves, or adds a chance when Blaziken would attack with a melee move... like one of its fighting moves such as Sky Uppercut or such. Plus, if you wanted to be cutesy and adorable like Renny hatching his Togepi, you could try hatching a pokemon egg in half the normal time with this ability. ^^

Guts might serve your purpose as well maybe. I dunno. Status conditions are more common in this RP, especially with new types coming up. Might be useful.

For your Metagross, it's almost robotic in nature, so you could probably give it Motor Drive for electric type immunity with a bonus of increasing its speed (and thus crit rate) when it gets hit by one. Useful for fellow pokemons with the attack Discharge, eh?


Hope that helps you some. Otherwise, like I said. All hypthetical.

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