Pokemon Umbral Discussion 33 again: Hijacked! - Page 4

Menarker · 07-24-2010, 07:31 PM

Well, Drac, now that you clarified that a bit, I'm pretty "mostly happy" with the plan, although I like to point out a few things.

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Honchkrow: Two super effective moves, one STABed super-effective move, all Amplified. Deemed Koed.

The ones attacking Honchkrow is Vaporeon, Abomasnow both with Blizzard and Arai with Thunder. Only Vaporeon doesn't have STAB, since it is pure water. Abomasnow is Ice/Grass so it still gets STAB on Blizzard. And I'm assuming Arai as a Electric/Dragon type gets STAB too.

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HoA Healer: Super Fanged, two STAB neutral damage attacks, one STAB 130 power neutral damage attack.

I assume the 130 power STAB move is Brine which I had Aster do in my plan? You changed Aster's action to do AncientPower to Noctowl. So I assume that's a copy/paste error?

Why did you have Aster use AncientAncient Power on Noctowl anyways? Noctowl has special Merc training to resist Rock type attacks by 50%. Brine would be more effective because it has STAB on top as well as being a 130 power attack and amplified by the booster.

Why is Fanthom attacking the healer with Blizzard first? Super Fang does the most damage on a target when it is at full health.

I'm also wondering what are we saving Lexhur's rage for in particular? Are we expecting more reinforcement any time soon?

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HoA Tinkerer: Milsha's Final Five Strike, one Amplified STAB super-effective Slayer attack, one neutral damage attack. Deemed KOed. Flinched if not dead.

Uh? I thought the two elements that work on humans super effectively was fire and poison, not fighting like the HV rifle.

Dracorion · 07-24-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

Their demon and half demon natures are more like plot devices than an actual class. They're generally tougher than most characters which makes up for them only having one or two Pokemon...which I intend to rectify.

Ooooh, fun!

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Originally Posted by Menarker

The ones attacking Honchkrow is Vaporeon, Abomasnow both with Blizzard and Arai with Thunder. Only Vaporeon doesn't have STAB, since it is pure water. Abomasnow is Ice/Grass so it still gets STAB on Blizzard. And I'm assuming Arai as a Electric/Dragon type gets STAB too.

Yeah, my bad.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

I assume the 130 power STAB move is Brine which I had Aster do in my plan? You changed Aster's action to do AncientPower to Noctowl. So I assume that's a copy/paste error?

Why did you have Aster use AncientAncient Power on Noctowl anyways? Noctowl has special Merc training to resist Rock type attacks by 50%. Brine would be more effective because it has STAB on top as well as being a 130 power attack and amplified by the booster.

Bigger bad. Technically, it's because I previously had Moon's Kingdra using Brine on the Healer. But I changed it so Moon uses that action to build an Amplifier instead, and I forgot to cut it out of the end result.

Also, I had Aster use Ancient Power because I didn't want to scour his three movelists for a better attack and I knew it did 1x damage anyway. I'll have Aster use Sludge Bomb on the Healer instead.

I edited the changes into my previous post, because I'm not going to post that fucking plan again.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Why is Fanthom attacking the healer with Blizzard first? Super Fang does the most damage on a target when it is at full health.

Because that would mean having Charlotte use non-amplified Thunder?

Screw it, I'll just have Moon use his second action later. We've done it before.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

I'm also wondering what are we saving Lexhur's rage for in particular? Are we expecting more reinforcement any time soon?

Well, there are supposedly nasties hiding in the fog, so we're saving Lexhur's Rage for that. It's also why I didn't have Rachel attack and had her use an extra Rage Rocket on Impact. Which on second thought would go better on Renny, wouldn't it? What with Prosperous Gifts and Serene Blessing and whatnot.

I'll edit that in too.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Uh? I thought the two elements that work on humans super effectively was fire and poison, not fighting like the HV rifle.

Copy/paste error.

EDIT: You know what the best part of my plan is, though? Impact will be taking the Tinkerer's Special counter.

The beauty of it is that he wanted to find out what counters are like.

Menarker · 07-24-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Also, I had Aster use Ancient Power because I didn't want to scour his three movelists for a better attack and I knew it did 1x damage anyway. I'll have Aster use Sludge Bomb on the Healer instead.

You mean the same healer with 100% resistance to poison? >_> Seriously, just put Aster attacking last and using Brine. It's pretty damn powerful finisher move that is always sure to have 130ish Power to start with after someone uses Super Fang on it even before taking STAB and Amplifier in consideration.

Everything else sounds good though. ^^ (Especially having Moon do his amplifier action first while saving his other action (and everyone else's action) later.)

Dracorion · 07-24-2010, 07:51 PM

Fucking details, man! How can you expect me to keep track of the smallest things like some asshole having poison immunity?

Whatever, it's fixed now.

Menarker · 07-24-2010, 07:54 PM

^^; It came easily to me. Fire and Poison are both the only weaknesses of human-classes, right? Healer having both of those immunities means he doesn't have any technical weak-points. Seemed easy to remember when I kept that in mind.

Your plan looks accurate now. (Although for AB's sake, might wanna mention that we're having Worry Seed replace Steelix's Sturdy ability and Pelipper's Volt Absorb ability so he doesn't randomly remove some other ability.)

Is there a reason why we're thinking that Impact's Fighting type rifle bullet is amplified? I didn't think it would be special typed like Aura Sphere or Focus Blast would... (Aside from the irony of having Impact get his wish granted about wanting to see what the Tinkerer's counter be like first-hand that you cleverly mentioned.)

Bard The 5th LW · 07-24-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

Sorry, Bard, I had to do it.

What are you apologizing to me for? Is it the pokemon getting kicked off? I'm willing to overlook that what with Arceus being the replacement.

And yeah Sol-leks is a bit frivolous, but he has a pretty useful item on hand. Flinching and morality drop. I'll probably have to think about it.

Edit: I always figured that Impact ain't going to end up looking like a saint towards the end. Although, people like Hitler and Stalin were pretty popular in the countries they ruled. But yeah, Impact probably wouldn't have a great approval rating.

I really don't mind, I just like the idea of Charlotte being 'The Dragon' type character in the sequel.

Menarker · 07-24-2010, 08:04 PM

Well, I did suggest that you could remove Pike. Arceus could be your electric type, complete with a spammable 150 power electric attack with no drawback. I don't recall you using Pike for anything other than his electric attacks... or does your Co-Op tech rely on him?

And I got no objection if you ret-con your item so you can equip it to any of your leader pokemons. My pokemon items are like that.

Dracorion · 07-24-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Your plan looks accurate now. (Although for AB's sake, might wanna mention that we're having Worry Seed replace Steelix's Sturdy ability and Pelipper's Volt Absorb ability so he doesn't randomly remove some other ability.)

Yes, fine.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Is there a reason why we're thinking that Impact's Fighting type rifle bullet is amplified? I didn't think it would be special typed like Aura Sphere or Focus Blast would... (Aside from the irony of having Impact get his wish granted about wanting to see what the Tinkerer's counter be like first-hand that you cleverly mentioned.)

Ah, screw it, I'm not going to argue this one. Doesn't really matter anyway.

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Originally Posted by BardTheFifthLightWarrior

What are you apologizing to me for? Is it the pokemon getting kicked off? I'm willing to overlook that what with Arceus being the replacement.

He's talking about your hatred of people typing "Sigh".

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Originally Posted by BardTheFifthLightWarrior

Edit: I always figured that Impact ain't going to end up looking like a saint towards the end. Although, people like Hitler and Stalin were pretty popular in the countries they ruled. But yeah, Impact probably wouldn't have a great approval rating.

You know, right up until everything went to hell.

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Originally Posted by BardTheFifthLightWarrior

I really don't mind, I just like the idea of Charlotte being 'The Dragon' type character in the sequel.

Just make sure not to get her demoted to that one annoying recurring boss.

Menarker · 07-24-2010, 08:14 PM

Cool. I'm fine with the plan then.

Anyone else got any problems with it? Otherwise, I'll start making my post a bit later.

Bard The 5th LW · 07-24-2010, 08:39 PM

I bet Charlotte would probably be a really high leveled boss that is mostly around to remind the main characters of how much they suck ass in comparison to the higher up bad guys. Because she would never willingly depart with Revenard or Arceus. And Buck is a pretty strong fighting force in his own right.

And oh yeah, I almost overlooked the sighing thing....

Well that settles it. YAOI EVERY THREAD!

07-24-2010, 07:51 PM	#34
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Fucking details, man! How can you expect me to keep track of the smallest things like some asshole having poison immunity? Whatever, it's fixed now. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

07-24-2010, 07:54 PM	#35
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	^^; It came easily to me. Fire and Poison are both the only weaknesses of human-classes, right? Healer having both of those immunities means he doesn't have any technical weak-points. Seemed easy to remember when I kept that in mind. Your plan looks accurate now. (Although for AB's sake, might wanna mention that we're having Worry Seed replace Steelix's Sturdy ability and Pelipper's Volt Absorb ability so he doesn't randomly remove some other ability.) Is there a reason why we're thinking that Impact's Fighting type rifle bullet is amplified? I didn't think it would be special typed like Aura Sphere or Focus Blast would... (Aside from the irony of having Impact get his wish granted about wanting to see what the Tinkerer's counter be like first-hand that you cleverly mentioned.) __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 07-24-2010 at 08:00 PM.

07-24-2010, 08:04 PM	#37
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Well, I did suggest that you could remove Pike. Arceus could be your electric type, complete with a spammable 150 power electric attack with no drawback. I don't recall you using Pike for anything other than his electric attacks... or does your Co-Op tech rely on him? And I got no objection if you ret-con your item so you can equip it to any of your leader pokemons. My pokemon items are like that. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

07-24-2010, 08:14 PM	#39
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Cool. I'm fine with the plan then. Anyone else got any problems with it? Otherwise, I'll start making my post a bit later. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

07-24-2010, 08:39 PM	#40
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	I bet Charlotte would probably be a really high leveled boss that is mostly around to remind the main characters of how much they suck ass in comparison to the higher up bad guys. Because she would never willingly depart with Revenard or Arceus. And Buck is a pretty strong fighting force in his own right. And oh yeah, I almost overlooked the sighing thing.... Well that settles it. YAOI EVERY THREAD!