Pokemon Umbral Discussion 33 again: Hijacked!

[Astral Harmony]

Sure, Charlotte, I'll allow you switch Leadership titles and custom accessories on your Pokemon.

I do try to keep the yuri levels pretty low in this RP. After all, if the girls are just going to end up doing other girls, who're the guys gonna do?

*doesn't look to Charlotte for answers*

Let's see...Kiyomi and Rio might just be the only true girls who would do other girls. Some girls do have...ahem...curiousities (like Evangaleen, Muon, and perhaps Rayleen and Whitney) but the land is fairly devoid of homosexuals on both sides. I had an idea to make Angelo gay (the Psychic trainer of the Thirteen Eevee Threat) but just decided he'd be another bishonen of the same calibur as Aster. If I had the artistic talent to draw pictures, Angelo is a very beautiful male in the same vein as Aster. I daresay Angelo is like a male version of Takano.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

If it's possible to save the world and uphold virtue, Impact will do so. But if he thinks that there's a choice between virtue and world-saving, he will, without hesitation, go for world-saving.

Doesn't seem like Impact thinks it's possible. Like, hasn't even considered it.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Well, yes. But Nietzshe's postulate was based on the bullshit justification that the human race would become more pure and therefor stronger. Whereas Imact's postulate of 'screw ethics, I'm saving the world!' would be based on the less-bullshit justification that the world would not be a very fun place if it was overrun by masses of Ruin Pokemon.

Look, sure, maybe it's possible to save the world and save puppies. But this is a pretty big task ahead of us. Maybe it isn't. Maybe saving puppies now will take precious time and resources, time and resources that we'd need later. Is that a risk we can take? I don't think it is.

If you mean that finding out if it's possible to save the world and save puppies is a risk? Hell yeah we should take it!

Originally Posted by Geminex

What if you, quite simply, can't?

Then you take a third option and sacrifice yourself. And hey, if some of the other guys want to follow and you can't possibly do it on your own (not that it's unlikely to do it on your own, I mean literally impossible), then more's the merry.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Oh come on. Like when? Before mission 1 he was super-civilised. Mission 2 as well. Hell, after mission two he even started a trend! "Collect trophies from defeated Ruin Generals". He wasn't very courteous before Renny's sidequest, but can you fucking blame him? And hell, he was nice during the party, he let Pierce keep the dragon slave, what more do you want?

Seriously, when has he been a giant dick?

I don't know where you're getting super-civilised from.

Maybe "giant dick" was a bit of an exaggeration. Try "plain unlikeable bordering on jerk".

Originally Posted by Geminex

Like I said. Wholly unsupportive? No. Subtle sabotage? Fuck yeah.
And allright, allright, you've been under-appreciated. Impact will generously praise everyone when the battle's done. He might even hand out a few hugs. Won't that be nice?

Yeah, that fixes everything!

No, seriously, I'm not going to believe that Impact can be nicer until it happens. Sorry dude.

Originally Posted by Geminex

My original point was actually that Impact makes less mistakes than Renny, but ok, let's just finish this.

Renny's made mistakes?

Originally Posted by Geminex

Dude. Like I said, subtlety. I'd get an opportunity or seven, I'm sure, to do anything from making Renny look immature, to making him look stupid to making him look like he just got hit in the forehead with a 120 mm artillery round.

See above.

Originally Posted by Geminex

If I lose, Renny, Pierce and Impact are named tacticians, on equal footing. They each make suggestions to Rayleen (or some other NPC), who pieces together the plan. The suggestions that they'll make are the suggestions we'll individually make OOC, the final plan that Rayleen will come up with is the one that we'll have decided upon.

It's like there wouldn't be three (five?) people competing.

Not much incentive for the rest of us to compete if we all just get the same price.

Originally Posted by Geminex

If I win... whelp, suggest me something. I've got two things in mind, but I'd like to see what you come up with while I consider how to be phrase my favorite.

Oh, I'm not quite brave enough to take a stab at this one.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Mind you, I'm of half a mind to say 'screw it' and just get together with Bard to help Charlotte win. God, that'd be hilarious.

CHARLOTTE FOR TEAM LEADER.

A VOTE FOR RENNY IS A VOTE FOR COMMUNISM.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Watch Charlotte be like the greatest leader.

Seriously, she has to lead for one mission, and watch it go incredibly smoothly.

I see Impact as a leader similar to Ender from Ender's Game. He wants to accomplish the mission. The goal is all on his mind. Any loss on the way was necessary, as long as you succeed.

Charlotte would take a William Tecumseh Sherman approach to being leader. Its not enough to just succeed for this battle or mission, you have to succeed permanently. You need to go over there, kick them in the teeth, break their legs, loot their homes, burn their homes, and kill their mothers. You need to leave the enemies so broken and terrified that fighting you again is the last thing they want. And then you rinse and repeat.

[Dracorion]

That does not equate incredibly smoothly. Frankly, if anything it would be incredibly messy.

You'd still get results, though.

CHARLOTTE GETS RESULTS.

A VOTE FOR IMPACT IS A VOTE FOR TERRORISM.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Oh I'm aware that isn't smoothly.

The first thing was just a joke, that I'd possibly follow through with to avert the obvious expectations.

The second part was what would really happen.

[Dracorion]

Welp, that's me sold.

MAKE WAR! NOT PEACE! VOTE CHARLOTTE!

PIERCE FUCKS POKEMON.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Renny and Pierce or Renny and Impact. Take your pick.


I thought he'd have 300 Rage this turn.

Actually, I was thinking that Rachel should rage rockets Pierce and Impact in preparation for next turn. Seriously.
With this turn, we should hopefully have knocked out 2-3 targets (the ones we're focusing on). And we'll have the fog deactivated, we know who is who next turn, and we can attack with more surgurical precision next round, selecting the next bunch of foes to go down, while using Pierce's Null Tech tech to hold the fort. Impact getting rage would pay for another salvo of attackers, to help speed up the pace and dealing with any foes that might have troublesome abilities (Leafeon's Worry Seed ability and such). Renny getting rage to support people with Serene Blessing was good this turn, since we didn't know which foe was which and whom could be flinched or what not, so we opted to protect key people. In the upcoming turn, when we know who is who (and have narrowed the numbers down a bit), we can focus the offensive on those we don't null turn or have 100% flinch chance for.

EDIT: Oh, wait, I forgot about my idea to have Moon get the rage rocket so he and Shannon can use Moonlight Disco for heavy dark damage and 4 flinches. I'd suggest giving the second rage rocket to either Pierce or Impact.


As for Lexhur, he starts with 0 rage, but gets 100 at the start of each round. We only got through 1 round, so he'll have 200 when this one starts. However, when the NEXT round starts, he'll have 300 rage to burn through. ^^


It occurs to me that Charlotte getting Arceus is thematically appropriate, in a weird sense. She normally employ dog pokemons right? Flip the word around, and what you get? God. Arceus, the god of pokemon. Makes a bit of sense.


And Impact, I only got one more thing to say about the ruthlessness thing.
Your ruthlessness philosophy has a significant advantage in that it will seek out the surest victory in the CURRENT battle. Meaning that it will seek the most direct and expedient means to victory. However, this RP have already demostrated that there can be rewards that come out of not being ruthless (or rather, there can be punishments for being too ruthless.) The soldiers are NOT automatons and can be discouraged or even broken.
Impact might win twice or thrice with ruthlessness, but if the group takes too heavy a toll too many times (people sent to the hospital like Rayleen or Dormond was or suffer greivious attacks like Kurika did) then people might refuse to serve PATCA at any point that Impact is leading (especially if it looks like its a predictable pattern that you'll suffer badly for victory), or even quit out of being shell-shocked. Basically, ruthlessness might suffer long term if it isn't balanced out with trust or some other "virtuous degree."

"I quit! We might have never lost, but I never feel like a winner! At least with Renny/Rayleen/Pierce/*Some other good leader*, they'd manage to pull through somehow and we'd wouldn't end up like this! This isn't what I was trying to fight for!"

And this is before considering that the higher ups may not agree with the ruthlessness thing, and that they might think the results do not justify the costs on their own soldiers or what not. (Especially if soldiers start quitting/complaining/asking for another leader.) It's easier to be ruthless if you're on the top of the pyramid, but not when you're in the middle/lower base of things and have to answer to people above you as well as try to please people below you who have influence with the people above you.


EDIT: ANYHOW Plan!

Renny: Togekiss and Shaymin use Air Slash on target A and B. Defog effect. 60% and 70% chance of flinching respectively (Shaymin has flinch boosting item)
Renny activates Serene Blessing. He and his pokemons are Protected.
Aster: Pay for Impact's protection. 35 rage used up.
Harriette: Pay for her protection and Matthias's protection. 70 rage used up.
Rachel: gives Rage Rocket to Moon and to either Pierce or Impact. She herself still has 50 rage.
Moon: Moonlight Disco! He and Shannon in the back both pays 40 rage to inflict strong dark damage and 100% flinch chance on target F, G, H and I. Has one of his pokemons attack target E?
Wilhelmina: Attack the fog thus dispelling it. Maybe attempt to aim for one of the shadows in the process since Renny is dispelling the fog and only one dispel is needed to remove the accuracy penalty? (Target E preferably)
Pierce: Attack target C and D? If Pierce has a pokemon with Earthquake, he can probably put that pokemon beside Renny's Shaymin, thus making the backlash ineffective while also hitting E or hitting C or D again.
Charlotte: Attack target C and D?
Impact: Attack C?
Matthias: Attack D?
Harriette: Attack C, D and E (twice).
She herself attacks E and one of her pokemons attack C. Have her Nidoqueen be beside Renny's pokemon use Earthquake to target D and E. Both of Renny's pokemon fly so it should not effect us and it won't hurt Harriette herself since she is protected. That would hit 2 targets hopefully. Seriously, unless the pokemon levitate really close to the ground, it should hit, because we would probably see the shadow flying in the air if it was a flying type.

This sounds ok? 4 attackers for C and D and 4 for E due to Earthquake hitting two foes. If Pierce has one of his pokemons use Earthquake, add another hit for either C, D or E.

We need another discussion thread.

[Dracorion]

Right, well.

Let's see about this plan:

Rachel: Rage Rockets on Pierce and Impact.
Renny: Togekiss and Shaymin use Amplified Air Slash on target A and B. Defog effect. 60% and 70% chance of flinching respectively (Shaymin has flinch boosting item). Renny uses Serene Blessing. Renny pays 70 RPs to protect Togekiss and Shaymin. Harliette pays 35 RPs to protect herself, Shannon pays 35 RPs to protect Matthias, Cecilia pays 35 RPs to protect Impact.
Wilhelmina: Piercing Shot on the DARKNESS.
Moon: Lanturn to use Amplified STAB Discharge on C & D (backlash to hit Aria), Kingdra to use Amplified STAB Hydro Pump on D.
Charlotte: Buck to use Amplified STAB Fire Blast on D, Pike to use Amplified Discharge on C & D (backlash to hit Bastiodon).
Harliette: Nidoqueen to use Amplified STAB Earthquake on slots C & D (backlash to hit Shaymin), Kangaskhan to use Amplified Focus Blast on C. Harliette to use HV Shot on C.
Matthias: Amplified Psychic on C.
Pierce: Palkia to use Amplified STAB Spacial Rend on D, Aria to use Amplified STAB Thunder on C.
Impact: STAB HV Rifle on D.
Trainer Attacks: Pierce target C, Charlotte target D.

Moon can't use Moonbeam Disco because he doesn't have Rage.

Formation:

[Evolith/Device Space 1] [Matthias] [Buck] [Pike] [Bastiodon] [Kangaskhan] [Harliette] [Nidoqueen] [Shaymin] [Togekiss] [Palkia] [Aria] [Lanturn] [Kingdra] [Impact] [Power Amplifier]

I could have Pierce call out Tyranitar. Except Tyranitar has a metric fuckton of weakeness and we're supposed to be playing it defensively. Still Tyranistorm with all it's sweet sweet +50% Special Defense would help a bit, I guess.

[Menarker]

Harriette has 70 rage, so she could pay twice for protection, probably instead of Shannon, who we should probably save for when she uses Moonlight Disco with Moon.

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Moon can't use Moonbeam Disco because he doesn't have Rage.

Shannon, the other half of his love-tech, is in our formation, even though she's not actively fighting. Thus he has the option of having Shannon pay 40 rage and he pays 40, if he gets the rage boost from Rachel.

I guess I should clarify with AB though.

AB: If someone like Moon has a love tech with an enforcer who is currently switched out, do they still have the option of dividing the rage between them when attempting to use the Love-Tech? Or does it not work unless both of them are actively fighting on the field?

[DanteFalcon]

Out of sheer curiosity would my Castform's Weather Shift special (Signature Attack) be able to clear the field of fog for a turn?