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Unread 09-27-2010, 07:03 PM   #1
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Default Pokemon Umbral Theatre 10: Pictures I Don't Think You Want Explained



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I like this. I can imagine you guys camping out, dining on Furrets 'n' shit. Anyways, on to the questions...

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Well, this one isn't strictly related to the new characters. What are you going to do with Double Attack for the NPCs? Keeping it as is, replacing it, adding a Rage cost?

Also FYI: you no doubt forgot but I had kind of already given Elizabeth Steel-type Evoliths. But you're busy so I'll just give her a different kind. Maybe Bug or Ghost.
Unless Double Attack is a Character Skill (which relates to their specialty), then NPCs don't get it. And if it is available to specific NPCs, then it won't have any kind of penalties except that the Rage will only count for one of the hits.

I've fixed the problem regarding Alice.

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In regards to you saying you were thinking of upgrading some characters, I was going to ask about characters like Lola and Dormond who have been around for ages but they only are pokebrids compared to the large numbers of pokebrid/slayers (Pokesoldiers) popping up. But then I remembered that Muon and Aster also joined recently and they are in the same boat. So I figured that those characters are probably high level Devas as opposed to being dual-class.

But upgrading some characters sounds good.

Mio and Laurith don't have Call-signs.
Not all NPCs are created equal. And usually when an NPC falls way behind, like Dormond and Lola as you mentioned, they tend to be retired, sometimes permanently.

I'm not going to say which characters live or die or get retired, but just note that you're going to be kicking off the sequel with a greatly diminshed force. It allows space for new characters to join up.

Menarker would object to me retiring Lola, but let me explain why. Lola might be retired only to show up for the purposes of LoveTechs and HaremTechs. Why only then? Because I don't think Menarker would want to wait until the epilogue of the sequel until Renny marries Lola and gets her pregnant. And I know for damn sure that Renny wouldn't make his pregnant wife fight on the battlefield...at least when they both realize that she is with child.

Characters who will hit their limit at ten ranks (like Dormond and Lola, again) will usually catch up by some other means, usually by increasing the potential of their specialties. But expect for some of them to go non-combat, or non-living, in the sequel.

Gem did ask me about who he was allowed to kill in a PM a long time ago, after all.

Callsigns are updated.

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Oh and can you explain the upgrades Mio, Silk, Sakuya and Irene have access to?

I mean, I know Irene was able to use Double Attack, but I don't remember if she gained 1.5x or 2x Rage. Also, would her and Sakuya's RPDAs last five turns and what immunities do they have?

And Mio and Silk don't seem to have five Pokebrid forms.

Or are their classes just, like honorary titles? Like they actually level up at the same rate we do, but they're already War Goddesses and Grudge Meisters for being bad motherfuckers?
I can't explain them now. I haven't created them now.

Irene can't use Double Attack, at least not anymore.

RDPAs last five turns and have no immunities.

Mio and Silk don't have five Pokebrid forms. They may in time, but they don't now.

Honestly, the reasons this is so is because I'm woefully lazy, but let me go ahead and try a logical approach as to why.

For Irene, she's suffering weakness because of the coma. Sakuya hasn't seen much battle since the Second Honmyr War. Too much politics. Same with Silk. Mio needs time to adjust to her body.

And if you don't believe that, I don't really care. Go yiff yourself or whatever.

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AB? I'm just wondering why Mio, who was built to be a ruin type pokebrid has her former weaknesses all turn into resistances. I thought Ruin types were weak to dragon, psychic and dark types. Now they are her resistances aside from her fighting type immunity which at least make sense. Doesn't seem right to me somehow, since I thought Pokebrids are supposed to keep the weaknesses of their respective types unless they are wearing Slayer armors that would protect against that (which would only reduce the damage by 50% making it neutral in her case).

* Mio Kazetsubaki (Grudge Meister/Enforcer) [MIKA*]
- Slayer Defenses...
1. -50% Damage ~ Dragon, Dark, Psychic
2. -100% Damage ~ Fighting
This is because of her armor as an Overblade, and has nothing to do with her nature as a Deva (Asura, to be technical). Her armor is designed to cover up for the fact that all of her forms are Ruin Pokemon.

And speaking of which, I'll have the Ruin Pokemon listing up shortly.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 07:28 PM   #2
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Actually AB, I had already come up with a Rock Evolith for Elizabeth.

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Nah, just kidding.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 08:28 PM   #3
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Current choice is Mirror Brisholm. Currently editting in my levelling guide up to level 10 as I'm not sure which way he's going after that.

Deva level 1 remains the same: (Base Rage generation increased by 1.5x)

Deva level 2 keeps the stat growth (+10 to all stats) and gains:

Potent Poison: While in Venomoth form Matthias can expend 15 rage to allow his poison to bypass any abilities or types that would otherwise negate the status he's trying to inflict for one turn.

Deva level 3 remains the same: (+20 to all stats, Ruin pokeshift form)

Deva level 4: Paradigm Shift lasts for five turns stays. Matthias gains:

Air Lock: When Matthias shifts the weather in his Castform state he can expend a minimum of 10 rage to prevent other pokemon from overriding his weather effect for 1 turn. For every 10 additional rage he uses he can lock it in place for another turn (though all have to be expended when the weather is initially shifted)

Deva Level 5: - Base Rage generated is increased by 2 times.
- Devas can choose a Legendary Pokemon as a Pokeshift form.

Emergency Adaptation: While in Porygon Z form Matt can expend 20 energy to use conversion or conversion 2 without using his regular move for that turn.

Feel free to edit, rip apart, murder with an axe. Whatever it is you guys do. That's just the basic idea. I want his initial 3 forms to get stronger and thus not be completely obsoleted by his last 2 forms.

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Unread 09-27-2010, 08:47 PM   #4
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Actually AB, I had already come up with a Rock Evolith for Elizabeth.

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Nah, just kidding.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 09:13 PM   #5
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That Quagsire picture strikes a little too close to my Swampert and his quad weakness to grass too! >_>


Interesting to hear about characters being retired and all that. Makes me worry which ones are hinted to get killed off. T.T


Anyhow, as for Dante's upgrades, there is no problems, and I think there is plenty of room for growth.

Only specific thing I might suggest to change for the better is:

Passive Poison: Make this a passive upgrade with no cost. Kinda like giving his Venomoth an upgraded version of the ability Mold Breaker. Although, I wonder if you meant for it to effect things like robots that normally don't have a mind or biological aspect to poison.


EDIT: Dante, have you any particular thoughts of what your legendary pokemon form of choice would be? I think you said you might choose Jirachi sometime before.

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Unread 09-27-2010, 09:54 PM   #6
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Jirachi possibly. Articuno is also on that list. Those seem the most likely currently.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 10:02 PM   #7
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I think AB said that the Flying Eevee trainer has Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres in addition to her flying type Eevee.

Not that I blame you for the choice. Articuno would be a fine one. Especially since it's the only pokemon aside from Smergle that can learn the combination of Mind Reader and Sheer Cold.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 10:04 PM   #8
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We're five missions off. I think there's a decent chance we'll run into that trainer.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 10:09 PM   #9
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Yeah, especially since AB said that she would likely appear during the beach mission after Pierce's sidequest. If I'm not mistaken.
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Unread 09-28-2010, 06:12 AM   #10
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Is it the news I'm thinking about, or did you change your mind?
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