Movie ruined by it's own fans

Nique · 10-23-2010, 12:29 AM

Which of you guys likes this Idiocracy movie? I'm asking so I know who to HATE FOREVER.

No I guess it's pretty funny but I seem to hear a lot of this movie's fans actually buying into the movie's (I'm assuming) extremely hyperbolic 'warning'. This seems pretty douchey. But hey, if you want to nuture a massive superiority complex* by indulging in the self-serving fantasy that is Idiocracy, be my guest.

Idiocracy is a great example of something that is ruined by it's fans for me, esspecially considering how many of them I have personally encountered who would likely be passengers on the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B. Feel free to offer a counter-argument, or simply share something you would enjoy pretty well except for it's fans.

*Yes I am aware of the irony of feeling superior to people who feel superior. An xkcd for reference**

** Oh hey another xkcd reference!

Viridis · 10-23-2010, 12:33 AM

Yeah. I see this on Reddit a lot and it's starting to grate me. About every week or so a new version of "So who else thinks the world is really turning into Idiocracy?" crops up.

Another xkcd for reference. Edit: You ninja edited this one in. Damn.

Someone add Idiocracy to Hype Backlash.

Yes, I enjoy stranding you all on TVTropes.

Nique · 10-23-2010, 12:43 AM

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I see this on Reddit a lot and it's starting to grate me

Oh man Reddit as a whole is basically like exactly what I'm talking about. BTW did you catch the whole thing with the uh, 'racist but not' restaraunt owner? Can't decide between racist, troll, or racist troll.

I guess Reddit would be another thing that bothers me b/c of it's fans/ userbase! Like, I read Reddit to remind myself to stay away from 4Chan.

phil_ · 10-23-2010, 12:58 AM

So, you don't think "Ow, My Balls!" would be a hit?

Magus · 10-23-2010, 01:05 AM

Idiocracy was funny. I saw it one time.

I'm not sure why there are people saying things like "Man, Idiocracy appears to be right over the horizon seeing this".

Idiocracy already happened. We live in an Idiocracy right now. OUR TIME IS NOW.

EDIT: BTW why do you have a problem with these fans? Is it that they are finding fault with things that are actually not idiotic but are simply contrary to their opinions or something? Like I'd say reality television is by and large a sign we live in an Idiocracy, as that is one thing the movie made fun of. However, if it's like, "YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN (INSERT LAW HERE)? MAN ARE WE LIVING IN AN IDIOCRACY OR WHAT?" then I see if you have a problem with all these "superior" people (especially if they are of the dreaded LIBERTARIANS).

Nique · 10-23-2010, 01:09 AM

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So, you don't think "Ow, My Balls!" would be a hit?

My whole problem with that bit was that physical comedy has been around since forever and even pretty cultured people used to like it pretty well. I'm not saying that I enjoy shows like Jackass or, indeed, Americas Funniest Home Videos, but yeah I'll chuckle if a dude gets kicked in the balls.

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Is it that they are finding fault with things that are actually not idiotic but are simply contrary to their opinions or something?

My problem is that they belive in something that isn't the case at all and has no basis in meaningful reality. Just becuase you don't like reality tv and that the people who they film in these shows aren't always portrayed as very smart doesn't mean that it is making people stupid or that it is less valid an entertainment form than Wrestleing, Telenovelas, certain terrible sci fi shows, et al. It's very judgemental and ass-backwards to make these sort of correlations and it is basically the same type of fringe logic used by, for instance, Jack Thompson about video games.

Like, it's not good to be stupid and to revel your own ignorance but that is in some ways what these paticular fans seem to be doing. The world is not going to get worse becuase poor uneducated people have too many children. If it get's worse it will be because smart and evil people who grab power will take advantage of them.

EDIT: I'm probably overstating my case somewhat. It's not like I don't think there are stupid or terrible shows or dumb people who should probably wise-up. Idiocracy as any sort of real problem is just a fantasy though.

Magus · 10-23-2010, 01:18 AM

Is this more about realizing you are in the Idiocracy and being annoyed, then?

Nique · 10-23-2010, 01:40 AM

It's like you're Morpheus and I just took both pills at once. Consider my mind blown.

Professor Smarmiarty · 10-23-2010, 03:12 AM

Wait idiocracy is that movie where everyone in the future is superdumb contrary to a trends in human intelligence thatwe know off?
And fuck I work with "intellectuals"- they are as stupid as "regular" people just there stupidity is in certain areas.

Amake · 10-23-2010, 05:46 AM

That xkcd strip is everything I know about Idiocracy. I decided it's everything I needed to know. A popular movie telling people that other people are stupid and that the world is in danger from their stupidity and making those un-facts common knowledge may be just about the last thing we needed. So, ruined by the fans, I guess.

Heck, I'm going to watch it now to see how this "warning" is horsecrap.

10-23-2010, 12:58 AM	#4
phil_ Just sleeping Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: At home, probably in bed. Posts: 6,482	So, you don't think "Ow, My Balls!" would be a hit? __________________ Be T-Rexcellent to each other, tako.

10-23-2010, 01:05 AM	#5
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Idiocracy was funny. I saw it one time. I'm not sure why there are people saying things like "Man, Idiocracy appears to be right over the horizon seeing this". Idiocracy already happened. We live in an Idiocracy right now. OUR TIME IS NOW. EDIT: BTW why do you have a problem with these fans? Is it that they are finding fault with things that are actually not idiotic but are simply contrary to their opinions or something? Like I'd say reality television is by and large a sign we live in an Idiocracy, as that is one thing the movie made fun of. However, if it's like, "YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN (INSERT LAW HERE)? MAN ARE WE LIVING IN AN IDIOCRACY OR WHAT?" then I see if you have a problem with all these "superior" people (especially if they are of the dreaded LIBERTARIANS). __________________ The Valiant Review Last edited by Magus; 10-23-2010 at 01:08 AM.

10-23-2010, 01:18 AM	#7
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Is this more about realizing you are in the Idiocracy and being annoyed, then? __________________ The Valiant Review

10-23-2010, 05:46 AM	#10
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	That xkcd strip is everything I know about Idiocracy. I decided it's everything I needed to know. A popular movie telling people that other people are stupid and that the world is in danger from their stupidity and making those un-facts common knowledge may be just about the last thing we needed. So, ruined by the fans, I guess. Heck, I'm going to watch it now to see how this "warning" is horsecrap. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed Last edited by Amake; 10-23-2010 at 05:53 AM.

10-23-2010, 03:12 AM	#9
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Wait idiocracy is that movie where everyone in the future is superdumb contrary to a trends in human intelligence thatwe know off? And fuck I work with "intellectuals"- they are as stupid as "regular" people just there stupidity is in certain areas.