Talking about Final fantasy Main Characters

[Flarecobra]

Probably why they got their own storyline in the remakes.

[Geminex]

Yeah, that was fun. Could've been a bit longer, but eh. I got to have Joseph beat anti-Chaos to death with his BARE HANDS. It was worth it.

[PyrosNine]

GEMINEX! You genius! You have given me reason to try another game to go all fists! FF2 was one of the only games to reward straight out fisticuffs in a game where you could equip anyone with anything! (Except FF12, that one was cool too, the "brawler" license. I leveled up to the point that I went back to the first area with just Vaan and punched out the T-rex.)

But let's see, great FF mains? Balthier was pretty awesome. Captain EuroFantasy Kirk, in some ways.

Tifa was great too, because aside from her being the obvious girlfriend and eye candy, despite lacking the reasons most of the other characters had that lead them to fight Shinra, she was still the one who ran out to fight with giant mechs, humongous fauna, the embodiments of entropy and renewal, and the testtube clone of a evil alien virus monster that's hopped up on lifestream juice, WITH HER BARE GODDAMN HANDS.

The guy in 8 who did that too was nowhere near as crazy/awesome.

Wakka was an awesome character, sure he was dogmatic and racist, but most of all he was a big brotherly fellow, and his greatest character development was one of those winning over the other. There is a reason why Tidus's signature weapon is the Brotherhood, after all.

Ramza and GBA equivalent, Marche, are pretty damn awesome fellows, having the balls to wreck the very nature of their (sociopolitical/magicaldreamland) reality.

Benjamin was in a game that was described as "Final Fantasy" for idiots. (it was the even in the ads) and yet he gave off the quintessential "FF Hero" vibe nonetheless.

Dissidia was a mixed bag, becuase it gave some character to the generic Warriors of Light from both 1 and 3, but it also gave some simplified and exaggerated character traits to other characters, making things feel like the X-men Evolution version of FF.

[Bells]

Cloud is particularly annoying in Dissidia. I mean, who says "I won't sleep well tonight" after winning a Fight? GAWD! Squall had his Douche moments too.

As far as main characters go, i still really Enjoy Agrias from FFT though, I still think she should be in Dissidia. That would be awesome. There is this one scene in the Trap at the execution site where she learns that Ramza is a Beoulve and when Ramza tries to tell her that even though he is of the same family, he is unlike his brothers she just replied something amongst the lines of "What? You think i would doubt you NOW?!" that was pretty awesome.

[bluestarultor]

Sadly, Dissidia is numbered titles only. Everyone seems to hold Agrias in high regard (she got pretty darn far in FFWiki's Magicite Madness II tournament and even took out Sephy), which has piqued my interest in her, but it seems I'll be forever curious.

I have to say I like most of the characters of FF in some respect. I liked how Cloud's personality and even sexuality was up to the player, for one, and Squall just seemed like a step back in several ways. You really did roleplay Cloud, and it's pretty much the first and last time you had that. I adore Zidane, and Bartz is just plain hilarious at times. Cecil was very much a man in every respect. He was mature and capable and did what needed to be done, but also was an emotional being, protective of others, and pretty darn complex given it was Square's first real attempt at writing a full cast. FF6 is a mixed bag for me. I personally don't like Terra simply because, well, click for a rant. I am aware of the logical issues with some of it, but like any rant, it was written in the heat of the moment. It's not that she didn't eventually grow into an okay character, but it took too long. I did, however, like Sabin and Edgar a ton, and Locke was amusing, and I have to say Celes' growth was pretty good. Tidus could have been worse in X, and now that I'm giving XII a second chance, I'm finding Vaan could be worse. He's not great by a long shot, but he has a few traits that are sort of respectable. The cast of 13 isn't all that likable for the most part, but they are all very human, which makes them more tolerable, because you can see in the flashbacks what they're like on a good day and better appreciate what they're all going through.

[Jagos]

Someone on this site once did a great write up about FF7, where they truly explained how Cloud was pretty well thought out and confused. I know that a lot of people thought of him as angsty but it wasn't the case when I saw it. Sadly, wherever that writeup is, I can't remember who did it...

Fine, I guess amnesia is as good a way (or at least as common a way) to start the game as any.

I'd say cut her some slack, she does get better and I know first impressions are lasting, but she got a double whammy of BS handed to her. Slave to Kefka (Psycho bastard) PLUS amnesia? Think about all of the people she killed for that guy and knowing she couldn't stop it? I think her being just a tad frail is kinda justified in that regard.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Jagos

Someone on this site once did a great write up about FF7, where they truly explained how Cloud was pretty well thought out and confused. I know that a lot of people thought of him as angsty but it wasn't the case when I saw it. Sadly, wherever that writeup is, I can't remember who did it...



I'd say cut her some slack, she does get better and I know first impressions are lasting, but she got a double whammy of BS handed to her. Slave to Kefka (Psycho bastard) PLUS amnesia? Think about all of the people she killed for that guy and knowing she couldn't stop it? I think her being just a tad frail is kinda justified in that regard.

As I mentioned, I really don't hold the beginning against her. I actually felt very sympathetic to her stumbling blindly through an unfamiliar cave. It's just that she spends too much of the early game effectively paralyzed and moping for my tastes. I mean I get it's understandable, but that kind of thing isn't particularly endearing to me. Vivi had the whole uncertainty and awkwardness thing going, too, but when push came to shove, he actually threw a fireball at something, while Terra simply didn't do that kind of thing on her own. I exclude battles, since those are player-controlled and not in the main writing. I mean, yeah, there's some scripted stuff in battles that addresses her ability to use magic, but you'd be an idiot to not be doing so during normal play, so it's kind of like saying "HA! YOU STEPPED ON THE FLOOR!" and then having something happen because of it.

What I was really hoping for was some hint of self-preservation, or an instance of lashing out, or something showing she could use her powers to protect herself without it being an Esper-induced freak-out outside of battle, anything to show she actually had some teeth, and she just spent too much of the game not giving me that.



Edit: I guess what I should say, going back to the Vivi comparison, is that at different points in my life, I was both Terra, and later Vivi. I have to say I much prefer looking back to my Vivi phase. If I'd never gotten to that point, I'd never be where I am right now. That phase is the basis for who I am today and I can mark the shift between the two phases down to about a one-month period. There are some important differences between the two, the main one being that Vivi, despite being just as awkward and alone and confused and in a bad situation because of what he is, has spirit that Terra just doesn't when you first meet her.

[Raiden]

Auron.


I...I really don't think I need to defend my choice here.

[Jagos]

Originally Posted by Raiden

Auron.


I...I really don't think I need to defend my choice here.

I see your Auron and raise you a Jecht.

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by Jagos

I see your Auron and raise you a Jecht.

I see your Jecht and I don't do a damn thing because I don't want to live in a world where someone can try to compare an alcoholic abusive father with Auron, a man who was thrown down a mountain with his neck twisted 180 degrees, decided he had better shit to do, and walked it off.