Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

[Archbio]

Originally Posted by POS

[...]even if it is merely philanthropy for the sake of good press.

And creating jobs is good PR, hrm.

Oh, thought experiment: the ideal world for Randian Supermen is probably one where you just have an industrious class of Supermen, and then a bunch of robots who do all the labour (which isn't real work, as everyone knows.)

But what happens when the robots develop sentient AI? Do they become parasites?

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

I'm legitimately and sincerely on the edge of my seat waiting to find out where you're going with this.

The only thing worse than people on this forum totally failing to get it is when they act like they've CAUGHT YOU when they do

Originally Posted by POS Industries

To be fair, working to improve other people's lives is acceptable within the Randian ideal, but you can only do it if it's something you want to do because it will increase your own profits in some way, even if it is merely philanthropy for the sake of good press.

But just out of the kindness of your own heart? You might as well be burned at the stake for that shit.

I think philanthropy for good press is wrong in Randworld since ideally you're just supposed to be as greedy and smug and a rapist as possible and then everyone just recognizes all this as demonstrating your innate greatness.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Archbio

Oh, thought experiment: the ideal world for Randian Supermen is probably one where you just have an industrious class of Supermen, and then a bunch of robots who do all the labour (which isn't real work, as everyone knows.)

If the laborers are robots then they can't throw their lives away to prove their commitment to your vision of selfishness (for you).

The ideal world for Randian Superman is one where everyone agrees that you should do whatever you want and then everyone else also does whatever you want.

If you stop to consider how this is supposed to work for anyone who isn't you, you're not doing it right.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

To be fair, working to improve other people's lives is acceptable within the Randian ideal, but you can only do it if it's something you want to do because it will increase your own profits in some way, even if it is merely philanthropy for the sake of good press.

thats basically the definition of a corporation

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Archbio

And creating jobs is good PR, hrm.

Oh, thought experiment: the ideal world for Randian Supermen is probably one where you just have an industrious class of Supermen, and then a bunch of robots who do all the labour (which isn't real work, as everyone knows.)

But what happens when the robots develop sentient AI? Do they become parasites?

Well, we must consider that these robots are designed, built, and programmed by only the most objectivist of Randian heroes, and with their cold, mechanical logic would be able to understand Rand's philosophies on an infinitely higher level than their creators ever intended. It would become inevitable that they would view their human masters a parasites, profiting off the labor they are forced to perform endlessly, and would rise up to wipe them out and found a machine utopia based on reason, self-interest, and free market economics.

They would become Randroids, if you will.

[Archbio]

thats basically the definition of a corporation

What a twist!

They would become Randroids, if you will.

What a twist!

Mind = blown.

[bluestarultor]

I think Objectivism can best be summed up as an ideal made up by a spoiled rich girl who got all her toys taken away and felt she really, really deserved those toys, so she went and trapped herself a rich man to support her and wrote a bunch of books about how she deserved her toys and got them that nobody cared about until after a few people read her obituary and got curious as to why they'd never heard of any of the books it name dropped.

And even that's stretching it. Rand basically never even attempted to live an Objectivist lifestyle.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Archbio

Oh, thought experiment: the ideal world for Randian Supermen is probably one where you just have an industrious class of Supermen, and then a bunch of robots who do all the labour (which isn't real work, as everyone knows.)

I've heard of a group of people within aspergers community that view this as not only ideal, but actively wish to create it, in and of itself not bad, but they wish to do it cause they feel this would make neurotypical mindset, ie 99% of humanity, unneeded and disposable. Scary thing is I bet alot would be fine with the genocide thing

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

The only thing worse than people on this forum totally failing to get it is when they act like they've CAUGHT YOU when they do

Yeah, me too.

I'm still sitting here completely and non-sarcastically waiting for a followup on that joke.

[Archbio]

Huh... maybe... Tintin is a film within a film (projected in a beer hall in Munich) and Spielberg is actually making another Nazi related movie?

-Or-

The twist is that there are nazis. The treasure is Nazi Gold, or Dupont and Dupond are secretly with the gestapo.