Pokemon Umbral Theatre 22: I can't think of a title

[Dracorion]

Oh right, the scouters. I completely forgot about them. Still, I don't expect they'd work on some bosses.

Menarker, you can spout as much bullshit as you like, that does not make DBZ characters being able to lower their Ki any less bullshit.

Also, DBZ was pretty much entirely bullshit in every aspect.

As for Umbreon's custom move, don't the existing protection-type thingy moves already come with +1 priority?

I think AB already said Medics carried Dire Hits.

As for the Wonder Launcher, I doubt it. I don't even know how you're supposed to rack up points, but regardless giving PCs the ability to throw items without expending any from their inventory is a no-no in my opinion.

We COULD give them to Medics. I'd laugh every time they healed someone by smashing a Full Restore into their face. Regardless, that would undermine the point inasmuch as if all Medics need to heal is a fancy wrist launcher why doesn't everyone carry one of those?

[Astral Harmony]

Originally Posted by Menarker

In the past, we always had the options of choosing the order of our allies actions. Meaning that the speed stat didn't FORCE us to go first or second or whatnot. Like if we thought it was tactically better for us for a fast pokemon to attack after a slow pokemon for some reason, (Like a slow pokemon use Helping Hand to boost the potency of the fast pokemon), we were able to do that.

Will this new idea prevent us from having the option to delay our actions or whatnot?

Also, I pretty much want to demand the abililty to add a priority feature to Umbreon's custom move in respond to this, since Umbreon is a slow pokemon to begin with and the value of the move would become USELESS if it was unable to trigger the protection ability before foes attacked and the move was made taking in consideration the way we have been RPing since the very beginning. Highest Priority.

I thought Helping Hand worked at the start of the turn in any 2P battles?

Faster units can delay their actions further down the attack order than what their Speed stat dictates, but slower units cannot speed up their action without first boosting their Speed stat.

And of course Umbreon's Scapegoat will occur before the action order begins. Anyways, I'm looking at the text and it says to me that you can choose any ally and have all attacks redirected to any other ally. I just want to let you know that attempting to redirect attacks to a PC ally or their Pokemon is an absolute no-no without their permission. Additionally, PC-NPC relationships towards you could go sour for pulling that stunt enough times.

In other words, if you want Lola to keep liking Renny, don't have Umbreon redirect attacks from someone onto her. The same could be said for just about any NPC. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if someone attacked Umbreon because you abused Scapecoat to save someone else's ass by griefing them.

Originally Posted by Menarker

If we go along with the plan we suggested, could we have Medics carry Dire Hits? They are basically X Stat items where the stat in question is crit rate

EDIT: I noticed that there are new items that can be found that are listed here... I wonder if you'll allow Medics to use any of the newer ones there or allow us to carry it in future combats...

Granted. Medics will have unlimited access to Dire Hits.

Those new items? I can see them being used, but not by Medics, no sir.

EDIT: Honestly, I kinda wonder why Menarker created Scapegoat, anyways. It doesn't really fit Renny's image at all.

[Dracorion]

It's no secret that Menarker is actually evil and he just pretends to be a nice guy.

[Astral Harmony]

So if he does Phoenix Wright sprites like you and Geminex did, he'd be on the right side of the post as well...

Sheesh, I might as well call the sequel Pokemon Umbral: 2BA Master!...of Evil and let you fuckers go apeshit on each other.

[Dracorion]

I would be perfectly okay with that.

[Menarker]

Yeah, I know DBZ is bullshit pretty much, but I'm just giving a plausible explaination that is rather supported by other anime that use the chi/ki/chakra/Nen system.



In regards to Scapegoat, it doesn't fit Renny's image so much as Umbreon, who would be rather protective of him in spite of anyone else. Plus, Renny could very well order the attack be directed to someone who can use Protect (like himself) and thus negate all attacks directed to that one target.

It might also have other viable implications. If for example, we were facing a very strong water type opponent and someone had Water Absorb (like Moon's Vaporeon) and there was someone who was weak to water on our side, there might be a valid benefit to attempt to protect the one weak to water by redirecting it to the one who would grow stronger with it. Or maybe someone who knows Destiny Bond if they were willing or something like that so that the one who knocked out the ally was sure to be KOed (or a boss would take HEAVY damage). Or Cecilia's Invincibility mode. And otherwise, it's useful enough once in a rare while to save a medic or someone who is crucial to a plan even if it doesn't combo with anyone/anything.

But yes, Renny would not want to use the move to save his own ass at the cost of someone else' if he could help it. (Think of it as Umbreon learning the move herself as opposed to Renny teaching it to her since that would not make as much sense.) It's a potent tool, but not something to be spammed at every occasion. It gives Umbreon a purpose that she has been otherwise lacking. (Although hopefully the change in using stats more faithfully will make her as useful as she was meant to be)

On the plus side though, it makes perfect sense if you consider that Umbreon could make HERSELF the scapegoat. She has HEAVY defenses and stamina (not as high as Mollesk but still quite sturdy) and if she gets inflicted with a status condition, that foe gets the status condition too in a vengeful retribution. ^^

Originally Posted by Dracorion

I think AB already said Medics carried Dire Hits.

He did, but that was when Dire Hit was modified by the crit system to improve its power and such. Now AB said we would have normal Dire Hits in unlimited quantities. ^^


In regard to the Wonder Items, I didn't mean that we would able to use them infinitely (even though I did ask if Medics would have them, but that's highly unlikely as hell). But whether they could be a valid item for PCs to carry. Improved X Stat items instead of just increasing a single stat by one level and such like that.

Originally Posted by Dracorion

We COULD give them to Medics. I'd laugh every time they healed someone by smashing a Full Restore into their face. Regardless, that would undermine the point inasmuch as if all Medics need to heal is a fancy wrist launcher why doesn't everyone carry one of those?

Ah, it reminds me of RO chemists again. ^^

And I'm totally not evil. :3 Doesn't mean I can't kick some ass though.

[Astral Harmony]

The shocking ultimate plot twist!

It's Renny's Umbreon that is the final antagonist!

Now that I have said it, it must be canon.

You all can see it too, can't ya? Umbreon laying on a throne in some huge castle with a perpetual lightning storm above it, being fed seedless grapes by some harem wenches that are as ample of bosum as they are empty of head.

I think he'll need to be able to talk, or like some kind of telepathy that everyone can hear. The endboss has to be able to deliver a final epic monologue, after all.

And now that I've got this idea in my head, for some reason it doesn't seem so ridiculous to me.

[Dracorion]

Sounds about par for the course.

Although it's occurred to me now that Scapegoat would combo horribly with Follow Me and any move or technique that grants invincibility. Anything from Protect to Cecilia's Great Escape.

[Menarker]

Also somewhat useful with counterattack techniques since normally those techniques require you to guess if you're going to be attacked or not (Moves like Destiny Bond, Counter/Mirror Coat or the counter-attack accessory). Although the subject has to survive the hits to make it useful though... And you're still guessing that someone is going to be hit if you're redirecting attacks, but at least the success chance is double and you could probably reasonably guess who the enemy might want to attack.

Otherwise, the protection part is great for allowing people to set-up like Focus Punch or what not.

^^ It's a nice tool because unlike Follow Me, which is pure martyrdom in general, Scapegoat allows for a little more tactic (who it protects and who gets targetted) while being less suicidal (the user isn't forced to take the hit) at the cost of being a bit more narrow in its protection unlike Follow Me. (protect one person).


Of course, Renny would probably die if he scapegoats Charlotte or Discord. >_< Maybe Kirie too. And Dinner would probably make it AOE to boot... Heh, sounded like another sprite comic idea.

AB: How is that going btw out of curiousity?


Hehe, Umbreon as an antagonist... hmmm... Her castle would be in a near perpetual state of darkness, with the only source of light glowing from the golden bands decorating her body. I mean, imagine being a resident of said castle where being without your master is to resign yourself in a cold tomb, isolated in total darkness. Desperation for light to see oneself and those around you would bring them to flock near their sovereign dark queen!

=P

Too bad for that idea that Renny and subsequently Umbreon are on the side of "good". (Although Umbreon DOES get amused by the idea of corrupting Renny a little.)

[Dracorion]

I keep forgetting, is Follow Me supposed to redirect all attacks used by the enemy at the user, or just enemy attacks directed at an ally that the Follow Me user picks?