Arriving In Westeros; or, I Just Started the Song of Ice And Fire Novels - Page 3

Bells · 06-18-2011, 03:31 PM

i bought The Name of the Wind not knowing it's a Series, now i'm waiting for at least book 2 to show up here so i can start 1. How many novels are planned for this series?

**Satan's Onion** · 06-18-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bells

i bought The Name of the Wind not knowing it's a Series, now i'm waiting for at least book 2 to show up here so i can start 1. How many novels are planned for this series?

We-ell, the second book in that series is already out (although it probably hasn't been for very long; I borrowed it from my library but my copy is quite new); it's called The Wise Man's Fear. Not bad at all, although it plays into standard fantasy tropes more than Martin does.

edit: But seriously, you can start it. Each book stands alone reasonably well, and why deprive yourself?

Magus · 06-18-2011, 07:46 PM

It's only going to be a trilogy, this is pretty much 99% set in stone because Rothfuss originally just wrote it as a long book (The Song of Flame and Thunder) but the editors wanted to split it into three because of length (also the original title sounded like...A Song of Ice and Fire!) I'm not sure if that's the point where he invented the framing device of the story being told over three days or if that was just a convenient coincidence.

EDIT: Also due to the fact that it was originally just a full book number 3 is coming out just next year, I believe, so unlike the majority of series, in writing it all at once it reduced the publishing turn around extravagantly.

**Satan's Onion** · 06-27-2011, 03:20 AM

'Artist's' conception of Robb Stark

synkr0nized · 06-27-2011, 04:51 PM

Book two of the series, A Clash of Kings or -- it's lesser known but more appropriate title -- Tyrion Is Better Than Everyone Else So Fucking Much Ha Ha the Imp Is Amazing Like You Don't Know, is good, for sure, but there was a lot of italicized thought being written down that I don't remember from the first one. It didn't get annoying, but it made me think of Dune.

Watch out for people in red. They give birth to weird things.

**Satan's Onion** · 06-27-2011, 06:25 PM

Inorite? In Clash of Kings Tyrion basically keeps the court--and by extension the entire kingdom--from imploding on itself and creating a black hole of short-sighted greed. And what does he get for his troubles? Almost killed by Cersei's creepy knight and his nose hacked off, that's what. Poor dude. Storm of Swords is almost the opposite of Clash of Kings in terms of things-happening-to-Tyrion.

Magus · 06-29-2011, 12:06 AM

I'm not sure how it is the opposite? It just seemed like an extension of bad-things-happen-to-Tyrion. But I guess you'll see that soon enough when you are done reading.

synkr0nized · 06-29-2011, 12:34 AM

Oh yeah I forgot to post how the scene in the show wherein Caitlyn chats with Jaime and he says all kinds of I'm-Awesome-Even-Though-I'm-Only-In-Like-Three-Scenes things was put in the last episode of this first season despite taking place near the end of the second book . Hmm.

Magus · 06-29-2011, 12:47 AM

Apparently they are going to shoe-horn in scenes with him throughout the next season so we don't forget he exists, plus maybe move some stuff up, as I'm pretty sure some of the first chapters of A Storm of Swords was chronologically occurring at the same time as the Battle of the Blackwater. So Catelyn will probably let him go about episode 6 or 7 or something in the show.

synkr0nized · 06-29-2011, 03:06 AM

For someone who appears on only like ten pages out of ~1500 [the first two books] in person he somehow is still awesome. Weaving him into the show a little more is probably a good idea with respect to keeping his character involved and relevant, as the show cannot benefit from characters' thoughts and off-hand references in the same way the books can.

I wonder if they'll also spend extra time with Dany and her dragons. She had plenty of chapters, sure, but she didn't do a whole lot that I felt was interesting in Kings. Though to be fair seeing the warlocks could be interesting, dragons are always cool, and I don't dislike Jorah doing stuff.

I am quite looking forward to battle scenes actually being shown on screen. I hope they do that. There are a lot of them.

06-18-2011, 03:31 PM	#21
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06-18-2011, 07:46 PM	#23
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	It's only going to be a trilogy, this is pretty much 99% set in stone because Rothfuss originally just wrote it as a long book (The Song of Flame and Thunder) but the editors wanted to split it into three because of length (also the original title sounded like...A Song of Ice and Fire!) I'm not sure if that's the point where he invented the framing device of the story being told over three days or if that was just a convenient coincidence. EDIT: Also due to the fact that it was originally just a full book number 3 is coming out just next year, I believe, so unlike the majority of series, in writing it all at once it reduced the publishing turn around extravagantly. __________________ The Valiant Review

06-27-2011, 03:20 AM	#24
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06-27-2011, 04:51 PM	#25
synkr0nized synk-ism Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: throughout the Wired Posts: 6,857	I promise not to. Book two of the series, A Clash of Kings or -- it's lesser known but more appropriate title -- Tyrion Is Better Than Everyone Else So Fucking Much Ha Ha the Imp Is Amazing Like You Don't Know, is good, for sure, but there was a lot of italicized thought being written down that I don't remember from the first one. It didn't get annoying, but it made me think of Dune. Watch out for people in red. They give birth to weird things. __________________ Find love.

06-27-2011, 06:25 PM	#26
Satan's Onion Swing You Sinners! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 4th Street Posts: 2,666	Inorite? In Clash of Kings Tyrion basically keeps the court--and by extension the entire kingdom--from imploding on itself and creating a black hole of short-sighted greed. And what does he get for his troubles? Almost killed by Cersei's creepy knight and his nose hacked off, that's what. Poor dude. Storm of Swords is almost the opposite of Clash of Kings in terms of things-happening-to-Tyrion. __________________ Good evening, ladies. Please enter and be tained .

06-29-2011, 12:06 AM	#27
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I'm not sure how it is the opposite? It just seemed like an extension of bad-things-happen-to-Tyrion. But I guess you'll see that soon enough when you are done reading. __________________ The Valiant Review

06-29-2011, 12:34 AM	#28
synkr0nized synk-ism Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: throughout the Wired Posts: 6,857	He is clearly the best character despite the fewest appearances. Oh yeah I forgot to post how the scene in the show wherein Caitlyn chats with Jaime and he says all kinds of I'm-Awesome-Even-Though-I'm-Only-In-Like-Three-Scenes things was put in the last episode of this first season despite taking place near the end of the second book . Hmm. __________________ Find love.

06-29-2011, 12:47 AM	#29
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Apparently they are going to shoe-horn in scenes with him throughout the next season so we don't forget he exists, plus maybe move some stuff up, as I'm pretty sure some of the first chapters of A Storm of Swords was chronologically occurring at the same time as the Battle of the Blackwater. So Catelyn will probably let him go about episode 6 or 7 or something in the show. __________________ The Valiant Review

06-29-2011, 03:06 AM	#30
synkr0nized synk-ism Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: throughout the Wired Posts: 6,857	The third book may surprise me and somehow make Joff likable. hahaha Naah. For someone who appears on only like ten pages out of ~1500 [the first two books] in person he somehow is still awesome. Weaving him into the show a little more is probably a good idea with respect to keeping his character involved and relevant, as the show cannot benefit from characters' thoughts and off-hand references in the same way the books can. I wonder if they'll also spend extra time with Dany and her dragons. She had plenty of chapters, sure, but she didn't do a whole lot that I felt was interesting in Kings. Though to be fair seeing the warlocks could be interesting, dragons are always cool, and I don't dislike Jorah doing stuff. I am quite looking forward to battle scenes actually being shown on screen. I hope they do that. There are a lot of them. __________________ Find love.