"Strong Female Characters" or "Sexy Girls Kicking Butt In Tight Clothes"

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Liz

Kry has brought it to my attention that I forgot to mention action women are often characterized as "sluts" as well. TBH, there's nothing wrong with being a slut, but it is viewed as such by large sections of society, particularly the target demographic. In short: A problematic cliche because it's more sexual pandering while at the same time based in very problematic beliefs.

thats abit of a double standard, male protagonists in these movies often sleep with whatever moves too.

Now I know these movies are designed to appeal to young male audience. But so is 90% of all movies made after late 70's, and before that middle aged male audience. This thing is nothing new, all they are doing is swapping the gender of the protagonist and the token member of the opposite sex that they sleep with.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

thats abit of a double standard, male protagonists in these movies often sleep with whatever moves too.

Now I know these movies are designed to appeal to young male audience. But so is 90% of all movies made after late 70's, and before that middle aged male audience. This thing is nothing new, all they are doing is swapping the gender of the protagonist and the token member of the opposite sex that they sleep with.

Sexuality according to society:

Male Sleeping With Lots of Women: TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME HELL YEAHS HIGH FIVES BROS

Female Sleeping With Lots of Men: Fucking slut. Go die in a ditch.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Liz

But it's not "generic sexy." It is wearing impractical, silly outfits for the express purpose of showing as much skin to the audience as possible while still maintaining the intended rating in an attempt to pander to the straight male gaze. This is further reinforced by the camera angles that are often used in these things.

And I agree with you on that.

[Kim]

Yes, except that it's done with different intent. When a guy sleeps with a lot of ladies, he's a cool stud. When a girl sleeps with a lot of dudes, she's a slut. That is the mentality of most of the audience, and thus it is the mentality that such movies play to.

NINJA'D: Krylo, you smooth criminal.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Liz

NINJA'D: Krylo, you smooth criminal.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Krylo

Sexuality according to society:

Male Sleeping With Lots of Women: TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME HELL YEAHS HIGH FIVES BROS

Female Sleeping With Lots of Men: Fucking slut. Go die in a ditch.

It's the very thing wrong with our society.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend

It's the very thing wrong with our society.

Not really "the very thing." It is one of many.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Liz

Not really "the very thing." It is one of many.

It's kind of personal for me. But your right it's one of many, many flaws with our world.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Krylo

Sexuality according to society:

Male Sleeping With Lots of Women: TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME HELL YEAHS HIGH FIVES BROS

Female Sleeping With Lots of Men: Fucking slut. Go die in a ditch.

If both men and women are portrayed as doing the same act in the same context then they are morally the same. If society says otherwise the problem is there not the portrayal.

That is my personal belief, but also inline with the original topic. I am not saying the movies dont feature sex and violence. I am saying the content is relatively consistent regardless of whether its a male or female protagonist.

Now if you want to argue its ok for a movie to show a man sleeping around but not a woman, thats a different topic then what I am trying to argue and not one I want to get into. My view of complete and total gender equivalency typically doesn't end well.

[edit] oh different intent. I see your point now. I personally do not care of the intent in this case. Intent isn't what I observe only how its portrayed. Its portrayed the same thus I view it the same. So I understand what you are saying, its just not a view I agree with

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

If both men and women are portrayed as doing the same act in the same context then they are morally the same. If society says otherwise the problem is there not the portrayal.

That is my personal belief, but also inline with the original topic. I am not saying the movies dont feature sex and violence. I am saying the content is relatively consistent regardless of whether its a male or female protagonist.

Now if you want to argue its ok for a movie to show a man sleeping around but not a woman, thats a different topic then what I am trying to argue and not one I want to get into. My view of complete and total gender equivalency typically doesn't end well.

[edit] oh different intent. I see your point now. I personally do not care of the intent in this case. Intent isn't what I observe only how its portrayed. Its portrayed the same thus I view it the same. So I understand what you are saying, its just not a view I agree with

Your not alone there.